Jatin: Acharya ji, yeh sawal phir se puchne ke liye chama kariyega. Apne bataya ki janeu pahanana ishwariya agya hai, ved ka kaun sa mantra iske liye bata raha hai.kya hum woh mantra jaan sakte hain….koi bhool ho gayi ho to phir chama prarthi hoon.
Swami Ram Swarup: Neechey likha hua Rishiyon dwara sutra pramann deta hai ki Yajopaveet (Prajapatehe) Prajapati ke (Sahyam) sath hee vartmann hai. Poora sutra is prakar hai-
1. “Om Yajyopaveetam param pavitram
Aayushamagrayam pratimunch shubhram
Yajyopaveetam balmastu tejaha.”
2. “Yajyopaveetamasi yajyasya tva
(Paar. Gri. 2,2,11)
Tej Singh: Swamiji atma kiya hoti he?
Swami Ram Swarup: QUALITIES OF SOULS (JEEVATAMA)
Soul is alive. Soul has to face the result of his deeds. Soul takes body of human beings, animals, birds, trees etc., according to deeds of past lives. Soul feels sorrow, happiness etc., through body. When soul leaves body, it feels nothing but carries all karma to be faced in next birth through his chitta’s (chitta) vritti (vritti).
Souls are innumerable but are constant in number having similar qualities like being pure, immortal, alive etc. Soul is infinitesimally small, is invisible. The bodies of all living beings contain souls.
Not God but soul has desire, hatred/malice, merriment, sufferings, attachment etc. While attracting itself towards materialistic articles made of prakriti soul forgets his original form. As a result, soul recognizes himself as body. This is the stage of soul being unwise.
“NA TAM VIDATH YA IMA JAJAANANYUDYUSHMAKAMANTARAM BABHOOVA,
NEEHAREINN PRAVRITA JALAPYA CHASUTRIP UKTHASHASCHARANTI.”
(RIGVED MANTRA 10/82/7)
(TAM) that God (NA) not ( VIDATH) known (YAH) who (EMA) all worlds (JAJANN) creates and (YAT) from you (ANYAT) separate from other souls(YUSHMAKAM) from you (ANTARAM) with in all (BABHOOVA) is (NIHAREINN) fog like smoke (YAT) that God (PRAVARITAHA) covered (JALAPYAHA) baseless discussion (ASUTRIPAHA) satisfied only in Prann [breathing system] (UKTHASHASAHA) only paying lip service (CHARANTI) deals or behaves.
Meaning: Like an invisible matter which is covered with fog similarly dealing in only lip service and indulging in baseless discussion and are satisfied in their breathing system, Oh! Man-woman, you do not know the God who creates the five matters/universe and the God who is separate from other souls and who is within all.
Tej Singh: Swami ji jeev ka kiya roop hota hi?
Swami Ram Swarup: Vedon mein Jeev (Jeevatma/atma/soul) ka roop ati suksham kaha hai. Aisey Vedic sanskriti mein is tarah samjhaya hai ki baal ka agla hissa lekar uske sau hisse karo. Phir uska sauva hissa lo aur us sauve hisse ke phir sau hisse karo. Ab iska sauva hissa jo hai, us sey bhi suksham roop jeevatma ka hai aur jeevatma se bhi adhik suksham roop nirakaar Parmatma ka hai.
Atharvaved states that take the 1/100th part of hair and divide it into hundred parts. Now take 1/100th part and again divide it into 100 parts and then again take its 1/100th part, yet the shape /form of soul is not imagined, being the minutest.