Shivanshu: प्रणाम गुरु जी चरण स्पर्श।शतपथ ब्राह्मण से एक उद्धरण दिया और उसका अर्थ दयानंद जी द्वारा। ‘अग्नेर्वा ऋग्वेदो जायते वायोर्यजुर्वेदः सूर्यात्सामवेदः।।शत.।। प्रथम सृष्टि की आदि में परमात्मा ने अग्नि, वायु, आदित्य तथा अंगिरा इन ऋषियों के आत्मा में एक एक वेद का प्रकाश किया।’ (सत्यार्थप्रकाश, सप्तमसमुल्लास, पृष्ठ 135)
इस श्लोक में ‘प्रथम सृष्टि के आदि में परमात्मा द्वारा’ वेद देने की बात आई है।
लेकिन मैंने कही पढ़ा ह की इस श्लोक में अग्नि का संबंध ऋग्वेद से, यजुर्वेद का संबंध वायु से और सामवेद का संबंध सूर्य से दर्शाया गया है। यह संबंध स्वामी जी ने अपने अनुवाद या भावार्थ में दर्शाया ही नहीं। धन्यवाद्।
Swami Ram Swarup: My blessings to you. Agni ke do arth hote hain-
Ek bhautik agni jis par bhojan aadi bhi banaate hain aur doosra agni ka arth hai Parmatma. “Ag- agrinni” arthat “Ag” dhatu se agrinni (sabse pehle) bhaav se agni shabda banta hai, jiska arth hai sabse pehle. Srishti rachna se pehle Ishwar hota hai. Isliye Ishwar ka naam agni hai. Agni vishwa ke sab padarthon mein hai aur Parmeshwar bhi vishwa ke kann-kann mein hai. Isliye bhi agni ka arth Parmeshwar hai. Parantu kis mantra mein agni ka arth bhautik agni hai aur kis mantra mein Parmeshwar hai, yeh ved mantra ko dekh kar hee vidwan bataata hai. Jaise- Rigved ke hee mantra mein yeh kaha hai ki Parmeshwar ne Agni Rishi kee Atma mein Rigved ka gyan utpann kiya. To Spasht hai ki bhautik agni ke andar gyan prakat nahin kiya aur bhautik agni ke andar gyan prakat ho bhi nahin sakta kyunki agni jad padarth hai aur usmein atma nahin hotee. Isee tarah Vaayu, Soorya shabdon ke alaukik arth bhi hain.
Suvrat: Pranam gurudev, * Padmasan mey yogi ke sharir Bhumi se upar uth jana kaise Sambhav hai? Yeh gurutwakarshan ke niyam ke vipreet prateet hota hai. Prakriti ke niyam toh Atoot hai na gurudev?
* Kya ishwar usi samay krodhit ya prasann hotey hai jab koi vyakti karm kar raha hota hai? Ya phir karmo ka phal dete samay? Kyoki yadi ek hi samay mey ek vyakti paap karey evam usi samay mey ek dusra vyakti punya karm karey toh ishwar ek honey ke karan ek hi samay mey krodhit hona aur prasann bhi hona bada hi vichitra lagta hai. Kripya margdarshan karey gurudev.
* Humey lagta hai bharat ka vartaman samvidhan nastik hai kyoki ismey ishwar ke swarup ka spast varnan nahi hai jo sarvamanya ho. Vartaman ke sarkar sanvidhan ke ashudha nitiyo ko hataney ka prayatna kar rahi hai aur pradhan mantri Narendra Modi ji bhi nyaykari evam jitendriya pratit hotey hai. Guruji, aap unsey baat karengey toh awashyahi veh satya ko swikar karengey aur vedon ke paramarsh ke anusaar karya karengey. Unkey vyaktitva se pratit hota hai ki veh aapke updesh ko nahi thukraenge aur shastrarth ke madhyam se satya ki sthapna karaenge.
Gurudev ke charano me koti koti pranam. Aap hamey ashirwad dena ki hum Ishwar ko kabhi na bhulein aur humara man pavitra rahey . Aapka shishya Suvrat.
Swami Ram Swarup: My blessinmgs to you. Ishwar Jeevatmayon aur Prakriti dono ka swami hai. Samasya yahee hai ki aam manushya vedon ka adhyayan nahin karta jismein tinke se lagaakar Brahma tak ka gyan hai.
There are three educations/preach about
(i) knowledge – science etc(Gyan) in Rigved,
At the time of every creation, knowledge of four Vedas emanates direct from God and is originated in the heart of four Rishis in non-sexual creation. In the said process, first of all, the knowledge of Rigved advents and originates in the heart of Rishi Agni. In this Veda though the description of every worldly matter right from straw to God has been mentioned but it speaks especially about matters concerning science of the world. God has described qualities/nature of all materialistic articles of the universe. Therefore, the entire mankind must get the benefit of eternal knowledge of Vedas by knowing about right from straw to Brahma i.e., God. The meaning of “Ric” is that wherein the qualities and nature of all matters have been described and the meaning of Veda is knowledge i.e., true knowledge. These words are used in making the pious word “Rigved”.
(ii) In Yajurved, the form of true, pious deeds have been preached. So, in the absence of listening of Yajurved, we can’t know about real moral duties of students, married persons, vanprasthis and sanyasis. Even the moral and social obligations of King, parents, children etc., can’t be known.
(iii) In Samved there is preach about eternal true worship of God like Yajyen, name jaap, practice of Ashtang yoga by following which an aspirant realises God/attains salvation.
So, Almighty God who is formless, creates, nurses, destroys and again creates universe. This process is eternal and everlasting. So, at the time of beginning of each non-sexual, the knowledge of above four Vedas emanates direct from God and is originated in the heart of four Rishis. The knowledge is given by the God to the human-beings for their welfare/benefit because until the knowledge is given by somebody, no one can attain the knowledge. In the beginning of the creation, no preacher, guru, acharya, teacher is present there to teach. So, God gives the knowledge.
Hum kewal bhautikwad kee chamak-damak mein kho gaye hain aur adhyatmikwaad ke adhyayan se door honey ke karann dukhi hain.
Regular aur bahut lambi sadhna ke baad jub Yogi asan aur prannayam theek-theek tarah se karta hai to uska vaayu par swataha hee control hota hai aur adhyatmik, alaukik shakti se padmasan kee siddhi prapt huye Yogi ka shareer hawa mein upar uthne lagta hai. Ismein koi sanshaye nahi parantu yeh siddhi jaisa upar kaha kathor, regular aur lambi varshon kee sadhna ke pashchat hee prapt hotee hai. Jub koi bhi vyakti ved marg par chalta hai jismein Ashtang Yog vidya ka bhi varnnan hai to swabhavik hee yeh Ishwar kee Pooja hotee hai jisse Ishwar prasann hota hai. Aisa prashan karne ke bajaya sadhak ko sadhna karnee chahiye, ved marg par chalna chahiye tub apne aap hee wahaan uttar mil jaate hain. Punnay-paap ka yahi arth hai ki vedaanusaar karma karna punnya hai aur ved ke khilaaf jaana paap hai. Actually, Ishwar hee adbhut hai aur Uskee mahima anant aur buddhi-mann se pare hai arthat buddhi Ishwar tak pahunch nahin paatee isliye jo Vedic sadhna nahin karte aur ved ke vidwanon ka sang nahi karte, uske vicharon mein sub kuchh atpata aur vichitra lagta hai. Otherwise Ishwar sarvashaktimaan aur anant shaktiyon ka swami hai isliye ek hee samay mein arabon-kharabon pranniyon kee weh dekh-rekh karta hai.
REVERT BACK TO VEDAS
It is the essence of Vedic spiritualism that whenever an aspirant enters into it then learned acharya preaches him that Vedas are the divine voice of God, which by the power of God, are originated in the heart of four Rishis, at the beginning of each creation. Learneds who indulge in deep study of Vedas know that Vedas are alive knowledge which emanate directly from God and hence they have not been written by anyone on the earth, in the shape of a book. Since, the said knowledge is applicable to all humans right from the beginning of earth hence Vedas are not a sect.
Infact, Kapil Muni, after traditionally studying Vedas and realising the truth, after hard practice of Ashtang Yog, also states the said truth in his Sankhya shastra sutra 5/51 that Vedas are alive knowledge hence ved mantras wield the power and self-capability to make such faithful aspirants, who are involved in deep and sincere study of Vedas, to understand the meaning and idea of ved mantras. This is the reason that Kapil Muni states that Vedas are self-proof to justify the truth. To elaborate, knowledge given in ved mantra or any fact stated through ved mantras does not require to be validated/authenticated by other shastras or any other book [but like our Rishi-Munis, Rajrishis and their public used to study Vedas traditionally with faith and sincere efforts, being the Vedic order of Almighty God, for all human-beings, the said practice is not in vogue at present times].God knows when inhabitants of India would be able to adopt the said moral duties, entrusted by God, of studying and following the Vedas, which destroys all the effects of sorrows and makes our future bright with long life and also spreads international brotherhood along with other unlimited benefits.
Secondly, universe has been created about one Arab, ninety six crore, eight lakhs, fifty three thousand and one hundred and thirteen years ago.
So, logically, Vedas have also been created at this time-period. Rishi-Munis acquired Vedas’ knowledge by listening to Vedas traditionally from acharya and did agnihotra/yajyen, name jaap of God and Ashtang yog practice as preached in Vedas. In turn, they realised God and got the knowledge by doing pious deeds while leading the family life, making their future happy and bright, according to Vedas. Then they further educated people about the same because it has been the benevolent nature of every learned person, who gains Vedic knowledge and experiences divine pleasure, to share it with others. About five-six thousand years ago, Rishis wrote six shastras, Upnishads, Mahabharat (including Bhagwad Geeta) and Valmiki Ramayan much before other holy books, based on the knowledge of Vedas. All these great writers – the Rishis, have eulogised Vedas in their literary works and based on their experience have admitted that Vedas are the divine voice of God.
That is why, Kapil Muni in his Sankhya shastra sutra 1/66 and Patanjali Rishi in his Yog shastra sutra 1/7 have shared their experience to educate us that the preach of any Rishi (Mantradrishta Rishi) is also considered as a proof to reach at truth. And also the holy books written by the Rishis based on Vedic culture are also considered as proof called ‘Partah Pramann’, Vedas being Swatah Pramann. Is it not our bad luck that the said secrets of Vedas are now mostly unknown to people and at this juncture, so called preach of any modern saint (sant who is against the Vedas) which does not tally with Vedic culture and which is definitely considered by learned of Vedas as totally false/unauthentic, is being accepted happily by the innocent public? If we consider impartially then we would find that the said matter is definitely harmful to the society, being against the Vedas because it does not come within the parameter of Vedic authenticity. Now, question is that who will bell the cat?
Duly indulged in illusion and mostly intention being after the materialistic articles etc., hardly anybody spares the time to study the literary works of Rishis like Upnishads, Shastras, Nighantu, Ashtadhyayee, Shatpath Brahmin Granth and above quoted holy books which contain abundant proofs of ved mantras.
Hence, when one will fail to study these great literary works of Rishis, under the guidance of learned acharya of Vedas, then naturally anyone will cast doubt over the Vedas which implies non-awareness of Vedic knowledge. Nowadays, people study the so-called spiritual books written by ordinary people but not those written by Rishis. It shall not out of place to mention here that Atharvaved mantra 7/105/1 preaches us to study Vedas or to study the spiritual books written by Rishi-Munis. The mantra strongly stresses not to study such books which are written by ordinary people. This secret has been made unknown to the public by several saints, by stating that Vedas, Yajyen and yogabhyas are difficult and need not to be studied/performed. People do not know that God states to study Vedas and perform daily agnihotra/Yajyen, name jaap of God and practice of Ashtang yog under the expert guidance of learned acharya.
Due to ignorance of the same, people are not able to understand that they are doing sins by not obeying the God’s order of studying Vedas and doing yajyen etc. On the other hand, they are accepting the juicy lecture of saints, who are against the Vedas and who are mostly professional. Moreover, all the present sects along with their pious books have emerged about two thousand to two thousand and five hundred years ago. As compared to this, Vedas have been on this earth since One Arab, ninety six crore, eight lakhs, fifty three thousand and one hundred and thirteen years. As mentioned above, Vedas are not a book. That is why, it has become difficult to repose faith in Vedas, in the absence of deep study under guidance of learned acharya of Vedas and Ashtang Yog.
Yet, it is a well-known fact spread by the tapasvis, Rishis-Munis by their preach and above quoted spiritual books that Vedas are eternal and immortal knowledge which emanate directly from God. This fact is even supported by renowned scientists like Maxmuller and many others who believe in authenticity of Vedas. It is further a well-known fact that Vedas have been preserved in world libraries with respect and honour, accepting Vedas as first and the most ancient literature. I mean to say that Vedas are the first knowledge which came on the earth. It was spread orally through the tradition of acharya and disciple, right from the beginning of the earth, as mentioned above. So, Vedas were remembered by heart by everyone. About five thousand three hundred years ago, for the first time, Vyas Muniji, who himself remembered the Vedas by heart traditionally, wrote them on Bhojpatra for the benefit of mankind. He completed the said pious task on the day of poornnima, about five thousand three hundred years ago. Since, then the poornnima has been named and remembered as Vyas Poornnima. Further, when printing press came into existence in sixteenth century, the Vedas written on Bhoj patra by Vyas Muniji were printed in the form of book which is called “Samhita” and not ved. Samhita means collection of ved mantras which has been printed. Half of the intellectuals of the world believe Vedas to be the divine voice of God and yet half of the intellectuals believe that Vedas have been written by some great scientist who has no parallel to himself in the entire world. But learned of Vedas know that God is the scientist of all scientists and no one is born even equivalent to such God nor shall be born in future. Then what to talk about being above the God.
It is also pertinent to mention here that a part of Bheeshma parv of Mahabharat have been secluded, named and printed as Bhagwad Geeta (eighteen chapters). Infact, Yogeshwar Sri Krishna Maharaj has praised and eulogised Vedas in Bhagwad Geeta. The above stated facts are known only to learned of Vedas. The saints who are ignorant of the knowledge of Vedas are naturally ignorant of the Vedas’ knowledge contained in Bhagwad Geeta and are therefore compelled not to explain the shloka of Bhagwad Geeta, briefly and truly wherein the reference and truth of Ved mantras exists. Why? Because they have not studied Vedas.
However, most of the present literary works and most of the saints are reiterating the fact that Vedas are divine voice of God. In this connection, Almighty, omnipresent, formless God has already stated in Atharvaved mantra 12/5/40 that those who do not study Vedas but take a piecemeal (portion) of Ved mantras, only which suits them, by means of studying other books etc., or listening from anywhere else [not based on traditional study of Vedas] will be punished by me (God).
Isn’t it surprising that yet no one is taking the initiative to study Vedas. On the contrary, those deeds which are against the Vedas and promote blind faith are being done on large scale. To experience the truth, we will have to revert back to Vedas.
Ishwar ka swaroop to swayam Ishwar ne kewal vedon mein hee prakat kiya hai. Ab prithivi par vedon ke maanne wale bahut kam hain aur ved virudh apne mann ke anusar naye-naye raste aur naye naye Ishwar banakar unki pooja karne wale bahut hain. Isliye sarvamaanya ka prashann to utpann hee nahi. P.M. ji ke vishay mein main kuchh bhi nahi keh sakta. Weh bahut jyada vyast hain. Mera aap sabko ashirwad.