Subrat: Swamiji aap ne huare prasn ka uttar diya uske liye mai abhari hu,ek aur prasn yedi Jo mai hu jiska mujhe pura aabhas hai ki wo mai hi hu Jo chetan aatma hu yaha mai ye nahi kahuga ki meri chetan aatma.lekin permmatma to kewal ek hi hai to wo her kisi ki chetan aatma me kaise niwas kar sakta hai. Please bisttar se sansay KO door kare. Aapka Subrat.
Swami Ram Swarup: You are welcome, please. Aap bilkul theek soch rahey hain. Vedon mein Traitwad ka updesh hai, jiska article neeche pasted hai:-
Three eternal and everlasting matters:-
Several persons explain its meaning that there is only on God and nothing else i.e., except God there is nothing. They tell that there is neither prakriti nor soul and not even the creation which is being seen. Learned of Vedas do not accept it.
Eternal knowledge of Vedas which emanates direct from God only preaches “Traitvad”. In Traitwad, there exist three matters:
(1) God(Ishwar)
(2) Souls( Jeev)
(3) Prakriti(Prakriti)
God and souls are alive whereas Prakriti is non-alive matter.
From Prakriti, all the matters of universe are created. But neither from God nor soul any matter is created. Soul can never be God being unchangeable and God can also never be soul being unchangeable. Soul due to the attraction towards prakriti is indulged in illusion and forgets his original form of immortal peace, purity etc. and has to face the birth and death again and again.
But Almighty being the commander of the souls and prakriti, is never attracted towards prakriti. He always remains purified. So, God cannot forget his original form and is never indulged in any kind of illusion. Therefore, everything like tree, tube light, stone, electric fan are made of prakriti and hence can never be God.
So, the meaning of Eko Brahma Dweetya na Asti will be, there is only one God equivalent to whom no other God exists. Besides this, Yajurveda mantra 27/36 states-‘Na Jataha Na janishyate’ i.e., there is only one Formless, Almighty, immortal God and equivalent to this, neither any other God was born, nor shall be born.
Isliye hum shareer mein rehne walee Chetan jeevatmayein hain aur jeevatma kabhi mrityu ko prapt nahi hota, yeh Chetan avinashi tatva hai. Yeh jeevatma karma bandhan mein phansa baar-baar karmanusaar unchee athwa neechee yoniyan prapt karta rehta hai. Kewal manushay yoni mein hee aakar yeh moksha pad prapt karta hai.
Isliye vyavhaar mein to hum kehtey hain ki main Colonel, General hoon, officer hoon, chaprasi hoon, nar hoon, nari hoon itiyadi parantu hum sub shareer mein rehne walee Chetan jeevatmayein hain. Isliye hum keh sakte hain ki main shareer mein rehne walee chetan jeevatma hoon. Han! Yeh kehna galat hoga ki meri Chetan jeevatma hai. Jaise taar mein current hota hai kyunki taar sthool hai (mota hai) aur current suksham hai arthat bahut hee suksham (minutest) hai. Isee prakar Ishwar ka swabhaav hai sarvavyapak (omnipresent) hai kyunki Parmatma sansar ke suksham se bhi suksham kann se ati suksham hai, isliye sab mein bhi ati suksham hai atah jeevatmaon mein bhi niwas karta hai. Is Vishay mein mere articles neeche pasted hain:-
God is formless
Being formless there is no need of statue or temple of God according to Vedas. As a matter of fact, you, I or every human being, lives in a body. Body is separate, we are called souls. Vedas say soul has no form even. Then also we know each other. For example even if you have not seen the photograph of King Akbar then, you can know Akbar by means of the study of his qualities. So is the case with the God. If an aspirant really goes to his Guru and listens Vedas like Shri Ram, and ancient kings and their public then he will be able to know hundred percent about formless God. Then comes realization for which Vedas (especially Samved) says that he who performs Yajyen, does jaap (according to Vedas) and practices Ashtang Yoga Philosophy while remaining in family like Shri Ram etc., he sure realizes ,being eternal law.
If we will meditate concentrating outside our body which is also against Vedas/Ashtang Yoga Philosophy, then our attention will always naturally remain outside i.e., attached with outer world i.e., decoration/music/dances etc. In that case subject matter of God will be over. It will be converted into spending fun, doing dances and singing attractive songs by ladies and gents, which is totally against Vedas. Thus the chapter of praising God, True Acharya, Rishi-Munis, performing Yajyen, practice of Ashtang Yoga, eternal knowledge of Vedas etc., will be over.
It is also baseless to say that study of Vedas and practice of yoga philosophy is difficult. It is self made story because Vedas are also called Shruti i.e., Vedas are to be listened first and not to be studied. So to listen to the Vedas, a learned Acharya is needed. The Acharya will explain the Ved mantras in the Yajyen in your own language i.e., in English or Urdu etc., and for an aspirant to do asan, pranayaam, meditation etc., is also not difficult. It is all difficult for those human beings, including present false prophets, (who are against the Vedas), who are lazy, can’t awake early in the morning to listen Vedas and fail to do practice of yoga philosophy. Those people are always after money, materialistic articles and pomp and show etc.
Vedas are not written or spoken by God. This knowledge is emanated from God and is originated in the heart of four Rishis as stated above. God is Almighty i.e., He has all powers. So He needs no assistance to do deeds of universe. In human body alive soul resides and soul is dependent, soul requires mouth to speak, eye to see, hand to write etc., etc. but not God. From His power God originates the knowledge of Vedas in the rishis without writing, or speaking etc. Vedas’ knowledge is divine. The fundamental of the Vedas is this that it was not written or spoken. The knowledge by the power of God was originated about one Arab 96 crore, 8 lakh and 53,111 years ago. Then first time the four rishis of nonsexual creation started pronunciation of the mantras by the power of God. God wanted them to know word meanings and sense of the mantras and therefore the rishis knew all. Then first time the four rishis started pronunciation of the mantras. They taught the mantras to other ignorant people. Then more rishis were produced who knew the Vedas by heart by listening only. There was no paper, ink or pen there. The Vedas were being learnt orally and traditionally this process is yet in force. But mostly not by heart but taking help of the printed book. So printed books are not called Vedas but these are called samhita.
Samhita means the collection of Ved mantras. Therefore Present printed books cannot be considered as Vedas and will never be in future, but samhita. Kapil Muni throws light on this point in his Sankhya Shastra sutra 5/48 that when a rishi does tapasya in the shape of Yajyen, study of Vedas, practice of Ashtang Yoga then the Ved mantras still (now also) originate in heart of the Rishi and the rishi pronounces the mantras. Those mantras are called Vedas, which emanate from God. So Vedas must first be listened (study) from alive Acharya (Guru who knows Vedas). Then only Samhita (books of Vedas) can help.
God is omnipresent, so He resides everywhere. He is in stomach, where stools, urine are also stored. He is in dustbin, gutter etc., too but he is so minutest and subtle and has unlimited qualities and the purest that He resides in every matter but matter never touches the God.
“NA TAM VIDATH YA IMA JAJAANANYUDYUSHMAKAMANTARAM BABHOOVA,
NEEHAREINN PRAVRITA JALAPYA CHASUTRIP UKTHASHASCHARANTI.”
(RIGVED MANTRA 10/82/7)
(TAM) that God (NA) not ( VIDATH) known (YAH) who (EMA) all worlds (JAJANN) creates and (YAT) from you (ANYAT) separate from other souls(YUSHMAKAM) from you (ANTARAM) with in all (BABHOOVA) is (NIHAREINN) fog like smoke (YAT) that God (PRAVARITAHA) covered (JALAPYAHA) baseless discussion (ASUTRIPAHA) satisfied only in Prann [breathing system] (UKTHASHASAHA) only paying lip service (CHARANTI) deals or behaves.
Meaning: Like an invisible matter which is covered with fog similarly dealing in only lip service and indulging in baseless discussion and are satisfied in their breathing system, Oh! Man-woman, you do not know the God who creates the five matters/universe and the God who is separate from other souls and who is within all.
My blessings to you.
Shivanshu: Guru ji pranam.kya ap panchm ved k bare m kuch jankari de sakte h? Wo kya hai? Usme kya hai? Aur uske piche jo kahani h wo sahi h ya galat ya phr pacncham ved sirf kahani hai? Dhanyawad.
Swami Ram Swarup: My blessings to you. Ved kewal char hain. Panchwan koi bhi ved nahi hai. Han! Manushya apnee taraf se keh dete hain kee panchwan ved bhi hai, parantu yeh kehna apramannik hai. Yajurved mantra 31/7 mein kaha ki Ishwar se charon ved utpann hue.
You are welcome, please.
