Bipin Badheka: Pranam, Swamiji. Charan Sparsh. Thank you very much for your reply.
However, again I would kindly request you to please reply against my query no.3 quoted as “, as per your advice I want to listen and learn Vedas from learned acharya (who knows Vedas & done hard ashtang yoga) in Mumbai. So could you please give me name of such acharya whom do you know in Mumbai or could you please give me contact no. of your disciples in Mumbai who are learning from any such acharya in Mumbai as per your advice.” Please guide me and I would be grateful to you if can help me in this regard. Pranam.
Swami Ram Swarup: My blessings to you, my son. You are welcome. I am sorry that I do not know the name of any learned acharya. However, you may make contact with nearest Arya Samaj mandir if they can help you in the matter. Secondly, in Bombay also there is no disciple of mine who can teach you.
Shashikant: Swamiji pranaam, I have heard that a Boy and girl never been friends. Or In other words they only have brother and sister or other relations, but not friends isn’t it? So tell me what is fact in this perspective? Thank you.
Swami Ram Swarup: My blessings to you. If today’s friendship is based on physical charm then it is bad luck and dangerous to society. That is, why Yajurveda strictly prohibits to talk or to make contact between opposite sex before marriage, instead promotes maintaining hard celibacy. It is our bad luck that we have forgotten to follow the preach of Almighty God and hence problem.
Aneel Kumar: “Yadaa yadaa hi dharmasya glaanir bhavati bhaarata;
Abhyutthaanam adharmasya tadaatmaanam srijaamyaham.
Paritraanaaya saadhoonaam vinaashaaya cha dushkritaam;
Dharma samsthaapanaarthaaya sambhavaami yuge yuge.”
-Srimad Bhagavad (4.7-8)
Swami Ji, it means God takes Avatar in this material world.
If it is not so (as I have read in Vedas – Divine Light), please give exact meaning of Avatar and the explanation of the above said verses from Srimad Bhaavad Gita.
Swami Ram Swarup: The explanation of Bhagwad Geeta shloka 4/7,8 is as under-
Bhagwad Geeeta Shloka 4/7:-
Meaning :- Oh! Arjun , belonging to clan of Bharatvanshis as and when harm is done to the religion or righteousness of the society and injustice, unrighteousness propagates all over, it is then that I create atma (take body) . This is the meaning based only on wordings (literal meaning) but the secret of the shloka is –
Idea:- according to Rigveda mantra 10/129/7, God is the lord/master of Prakriti and souls. Yajurveda mantra 40/8 states God is pure and away from sins. Hence, no Yog maya or illusion can overpower God to force Him to take Avtar and then to suffer sorrows or enjoy happiness like ordinary human beings. Hence, God can never become soul and vice versa; say Vedas.
Yajurveda chapter 31, Atharvaveda kand 19, sukta 6, Samveda mantra 617 to 621 and Rigveda mantras 10/90/1-3 prove that prakriti comprising of three qualities viz raj, Tam and Satva is non-alive whereas God and souls are alive matters. Moreover, the three matters – alive God, alive souls and non-alive prakriti are eternal.
The given shloka signifies that whenever there is downfall in pious deeds to be done according to Vedas and increase in irreligious deeds /sins , which are against Vedas then the idea of the above shloka is this that Sri Krishna Maharaj prays to God that God gives him power to take birth to kill the culprits kauravas because fundamental law of Vedas clearly states that God never takes avtar. In this connection, I paste my articles on avtarwad.
God is only one who creates the universe and no other can create the universe except God. Please think deeply is any one except God empowered for creation, etc.? The pious qualities of God are unlimited whereas qualities of soul, which resides in human body, are limited. That is why He is God. This fact is also mentioned by Rishi Patanjali in his Yog shastra sutra 1/24,
“KALEASHKARAMVIPAKASHYAIHI APRAMRISHTAHA PURUSHVISHESHAHA
ISHWARAHA” i.e., He who is not indulged in any sorrows/sufferings (kalesh), in any kind of deed (karma) and result thereof (vipakya), He is supreme in souls and is called Ishwar (God), whereas, soul is indulged in all the said matters according to deeds done in previous, and in the present life. So this is also a difference between God and souls and therefore soul can never be God based on the different qualities.
Amongst unlimited qualities of God, few may be enumerated-that God creates, nurses and destroys the universe. God is omnipresent, omniscient and omnipotent and Almighty, beyond description, beyond imagination, and beyond calculation. Nobody on the earth can deny such qualities, but these qualities are to be discussed and considered deeply and he who does the same is called MUNI as per Vedas and shastras.
Let us think over one quality of God – Being Almighty. Almighty means God has all powers and thus God, to control the universe and to do any kind of deed for the same, can not be dependent on another, at any cost, being Almighty. Again shastras say, which is a true saying too, that there must be reason behind for any creation, matter etc. God is a reason to create the universe. Parents are the reason to give birth to a child. Ravana took Sita forcefully which became a reason for war between Shri Ram and Ravana etc. So as per Vedas there must be a reason of avtar and after studying eternal knowledge of Vedas and thinking deeply, there seems no reason to take avtar by Almighty God. As in Yajurveda mantra 2/26, so is in Shwetashwaropnishad shlok 6/8 wherein it is mentioned that there is no reason to form a God and thus God is also formless i.e., nobody can make God but God creates universe from non-alive prakriti. Secondly the said Upnishad says that the
deeds of God of creation, nursing, and destruction of universe are eternal, natural, and automatic. So naturally God needs no avtar to destroy Kalyug, earth, or devils etc., being Almighty i.e., God has all powers and is independent. Not God but only His powers are enough to control, create, nurse, destroy the universe. That is why Upnishad says that God has no desire to create etc., but it is eternal and natural and this sort of desire is named “IKSHAN” and not desire to create etc.
Suppose God has to kill a devil and He takes avtar and God kills the devils by arrow etc. It means God is not Almighty and independent because God has taken help of Avtar (Human body) and arrow, gun, etc., which is impossible.
This all I have told based on fundamental law of eternal knowledge of four Vedas. Yet if anybody says about avtar then it is their own views and they are satisfied with their views and can not be commented because they could have been realizing at their own but so far as eternal knowledge of Vedas is concerned, Avtar is not possible.
Second reason for Sri Krishna Maharaj to take the birth lies on the basis of Atharvaveda mantra 9/10/11 wherein it is stated that any liberated soul (one who has realised God)can take birth on his discretion to bring about the welfare of mankind and to establish the truth /religion. Such souls come to accomplish a particular deed and then go back, at their own discretion, say the above quoted Atharvaveda mantra 9/10/11. Yogeshwar Sri Krishna Maharaj being liberated soul was entitled to do the same.
So Geeta is to be read keeping in view the fact that it has been written by Vyasmuniji and orated by Sri Krishna Maharaj and both were the learned of four Vedas and ashtang yoga philosophy . Therefore neither Yogeshwar Sri Krishna Maharaj nor Vyasmuniji can accept Avtarvad but now mostly the people or gurus who have never studied Vedas, listen and preach respectively Bhagwad Geeta and hence the problem. See when
(a+b) 2 = a2+b2+2ab
it is the formula , which can never be altered. Suppose, some body says
then this false statement will only be accepted by an ignorant person and not learned . So, is the case of Bhagwad Geeta.
I would also advice you to read my book- “Bhagwad Geeta – Ek Vedic rehasya” wherein detailed comments on each shloka of Bhagwad Geeta from chapters first to six have been briefed. Second part of Bhagwad Geeta from chapter seven to twelve is under print, please.