Pradeep: Swami ji, Namaskar, I wanted to ask a question about Rig Veda which is “battle of the ten kings” please can you throw lots of light of on this topic, as I wish to make movie on this topic. my apologies if unknowingly I bothered or hurt you in anyway.
Swami Ram Swarup: Namaskarji.
There is no mention about battle of ten kings in Rigveda and also in the remaining three Vedas i.e., Samveda, Atharvaveda and Yajurveda. Moreover, Vedas are an eternal knowledge which emanate directly from God in the beginning of non-sexual creation. The said eternal truth has been realized and accepted right from the beginning of the earth by the ancient Rishis after doing hard tapasya in the shape of study of Vedas, name jaap of God and hard ashtang Yoga practice. They then used to attain the “Dharammegh Samadhi” wherein they realized Almighty God and saw the ved mantras within them. The present learneds of Vedas and Ashtang Yoga, also accept it. I mean to say, Vedas is a knowledge and Vedas never use any proper noun except that of Almighty God. In this connection, I also paste my article on-
God has made universe and blessed us human body to do pious deeds only. He has not made any heaven or hell. All have to face the result of their deeds, good or bad here only, even by taking rebirth. (Rigveda mantra 10/135/1,2)
God has not only made universe but has also given knowledge of four Vedas where answers to your and everyone’s questions have been given. There are four Vedas:
1. Rig Veda – gives knowledge of science, matter of the universe like sun, moon, air body etc., etc.
2. Yajurveda – gives knowledge of all the deeds and duties to be performed by men or women, students, leaders, king, agriculturist etc., etc., etc.
3 Samveda – gives knowledge how to worship God who gives peace and long happy life etc. In this way, details of Yoga philosophy, qualities, supreme deeds and nature of the God are also given.
4 Atharvaveda – gives details of God, medical science and details of medicine etc.
Actually in four Vedas there is unlimited knowledge. Yajurveda mantra 40/8 says that God is everywhere, is Almighty, formless, devoid of nervous system, purest, away from sins and away to face any result of any karmas (deeds), knows every soul, knows what is in everyone’s mind, no body has made God, but God creates universe, has given the eternal knowledge of four Vedas and always gives the said knowledge at the beginning of every universe to know the science and deeds to all concern. Similarly four Vedas say about God that God is an omnipresent, omniscient, formless, beyond imagination and beyond calculation. Actually God has unlimited qualities. There is only one God who creates, nurses, destroys the universe and again creates. Atharvaveda mantra 4/1/1 also says that God gives the knowledge of Vedas at the beginning of the earth to four Rishis of unsexual creation. And thereafter only public listens Vedas through Rishis Munis as yet and become learned. Rig-Veda gives knowledge of Almighty, Yajurveda gives knowledge of karmas (deeds), Samveda tells about worship-Yoga philosophy and Atharvaveda about medicines and God. Actually all Vedas commonly says about God also, so this is about Vedas in short. But the knowledge of Vedas is endless.
It is a fundamental law that knowledge is always given by somebody otherwise knowledge can’t be gained at any cost. If a new born baby is nursed well in a dense jungle and is not educated then he will not be able to gain any knowledge. So we have to think about the origin of the knowledge prevalent in the world today. In this connection all Vedas themselves say that God gives this knowledge to four Rishis. As has also been said by Rishi Patanjali in yoga shastra sutra 1/26, God is first Guru of the four Rishis. Yajurveda mantra 31/7 also refers. This is all in short about Vedas.
The Vedas are not a book, rather it is a knowledge originated in the heart of Rishis. At the time of beginning of the earth those Rishis preached Vedas by mouth and all others remembered the same by mouth at that time there was no pen, pencil, paper, etc. This process of studying Vedas by mouth remained till Mahabharata time. Muni Vyas too remembered Vedas traditionally by mouth. Then Muni Vyas first time wrote the Vedas on Bhoj patra about 5300 years ago. In 16th century when printing press came into existence then the Vedas were printed. Still Vedas are not those which have been printed but Vedas are those which are preached by mouth by an Acharya/yogi and the printed Vedas are called Sanhita.
Now if somebody worships a statue etc., i.e., its their own creation please but Vedas deny. According to Vedas the best worship of the God is Yajyen (Yajna) for which all Vedas are self-proof. Yajurveda mantra 31/16 says that the learned persons worship God by Yajyen.
So many people have asked me that most of the scholars/preachers of different religion state that their religion incorporates all matters of the world including science. What about Vedas? I wrote so many Ved Mantras describing science matters therein. For example, Yajurvaveda Mantra 3/6 states “Ayam Gauhu Swaha Pitram Puraha Prayan Mataram Prishnihi Aakrameet Asadat”.
Meaning= This earth revolves around the Sun in the space and it also rotates on its own axis. Vedas are eternal like God because Vedas emanate from God. Now, according to Vedas, this present creation is about 1 Arab, 96 crores, 8 lakh and about 53,000 years old. So are the Vedas but as said in Rigveda Mantra 10/191/3 the present creation is same as was the previous one and this process of creation is eternal. So are the Vedas which emanate from eternal God. This all concludes that Vedas are the oldest in this creation also and no other book of science, maths or pertaining to spiritualism is written before Vedas.
Like the above example of rotation and revolution of earth, the significance of whole present science is mentioned in Vedas. We can see that whatever is happening in the universe, is all according to the Vedas. For example, occurance of six seasons, actions of Sun, moon, process of death, birth, worship, yoga philosophy, atomic energy, agriculture, animal husbandry, knowledge of politics, administration, architecture, solar energy, knowledge of home appliances like mixer, grinder, business rules, about men, women, children, marriage, Brahamcharya, education, clothes etc., etc., i.e., knowledge right from a straw to Brahma is all in Vedas. God is Almighty and has unlimited powers. So through His power He is able to originate the knowledge of Vedas in the heart of four Rishis without pencil, paper, help of mouth or any other worldly assistance.
We, i.e., the whole world depends on Almighty God but God is forever independent. That is why, He is God. We are the souls who reside in human bodies. We need assistance of senses, perceptions, mind and body to do deeds but not God.
Nowadays, so many saints are writing books. What is the background to right their books? Background is clear that they have first studied or listened the preach from their Gurus, keeping aside the matter of truth or falsehood. And after studying or listening the same, they became able to write the books. So this is also fundamental law, based on which, the ancient Rishis first listened Vedas and when they became learned then only they wrote the Vedic books like Valmikee Ramayana, six shastras, Mahabharata (Bhagwad Geeta), Upanishads, etc., etc. So, first the knowledge of Vedas is initiated in the universe and afterwards other books come into existence.
Somebody may say that human beings have knowledge by their nature to create anything like books etc., but we see that the newly born baby who is nursed in a jungle, in the absence of knowledge of a learned person, he becomes incapable to do anything. Thus, he can’t be M.A, M.Sc, doctor etc. So there are two types of the words and meanings. First, eternal which are from Almighty God and second, natural made by human beings. Eternal word meanings are always from Vedas i.e., from God. After listening/studying Vedas, human-beings become learned and then too based on their own natural knowledge, they make their own words and meanings, literature etc. But it is very much clear that in the absence of knowledge of Vedas, no one can become learned. Nowadays, also people live in dense jungle and do not lead a civilized life because they are not learned as cited above. Vedas are not sects because they emanate direct from God and God is one for all human beings. God creates sun, moon, air, water, food etc., which are meant for the best use of all human-beings for their long, happy life. So are the Vedas.
So all human beings must accept Vedas as an eternal knowledge from God, for the benefit of whole creation.
Hence, the study of four Vedas reveals that innumerable benefits have been contained in the Cow by God for the human-beings. The study of Ved-shastras, Upnishads, Valmiki Ramayan, Bhagwad Geeta, Mahabharat reveals that non-vegetarian food and addiction by human-beings, has strictly been prohibited by Almighty God. Why the views of the said books are true. In this connection I would like to mention that the knowledge is only obtained when it is given by someone else. Otherwise, the people would remain ignorant, indulged in illusion. So a deep consideration would force us to think that the first holy book named Valmiki Ramayan written by Valmikiji about one crore eighty-one lakh years ago could be written when Valimkiji had studied Vedas first. Otherwise, ignorant person would not be able to write such a great epic. So is the case of writing Mahabharat epic, six shastras, Upnishads and other ancient and present holy books. Therefore the said holy books written by Rishis totally based on Vedas are considered authentic by the learneds. Yog Shastra sutra 1/7 educates the human-beings by saying that to come to a conclusion/truth. The views must tally with Vedas first then the above said books. It is sad that most of the saints who are preaching and writing the books never produce proof of Vedas supporting their respective views. Sins are committed due to ignorance. Nowadays Vedas are not been listened properly, hence ignorance prevails. Therefore the grave sin of consumption of non-vegetarian food is increasing day by day. It has led to cause of number of diseases and laws of nature then we will find that carnivorous animals like lions, leopards, tigers etc., hunt the herbivorous animals. But herbivores like deer, rabbits, elephants never take non-vegetarian food.
Similarly, God has created bodies of human-beings to take only vegetarian food but it is sad that several human-beings are in the habit of taking non-vegetarian food and thus break the laws of universe made by God Himself in the Vedas. You see defaulter of such laws is always punished and God has also stated in several mantras to award punishment to people who take non-vegetarian food.
This habit as quoted above in due to ignorance/illusion. If our Government draws its attention towards the eternal knowledge of Vedas which emanate direct from God, then no doubt the people will gain long, happy life with all assets, say the Vedas.
However, Vedas which give us the knowledge right from straw to Almighty God also give knowledge to the kings (common noun) that king should be learned of Vedas (as were Sri Ram, Sri Krishna maharaj, Harishchandra, Pandavas etc., who faithfully ruled over the public, treating them as their sons and daughters based on Vedas’ knowledge.)
God tells in Vedas that king should kill the enemies and criminals to protect the public and to make them happy, contented and peaceful. The king should do justice to public, he should protect the agriculture and all matters concerning public.
(Atharvaveda mantra 20/11/1, 2 refer).
In this connection, I would also advise you to read my book- ‘Protect the Holy Cow- say Vedas’ (in English) worth Rs.40/- excluding postal charges, on receipt of your postal address, if you desire, in which the king has been made responsible to protect the cow also by killing the culprits. I give few references from the book-
………….In the Rigveda Mantra 6/17/11, the meaning of Indra is a king.
Devta (subject matter) of the entire Rigveda mandal 6 is “Indra” but not the Indra who is king of swarg etc., and a king on the earth if evil-minded and becomes non-vegetarian person then also he shall not be able consume flesh of hundred buffaloes at one time.
The idea of the mantra is just as the public who serves the king and makes the kingdom to flourish by paying taxes to the king etc. Then it is also the duty of king/administrator to look after the public well to make them progressive in lives both in science, education, justice etc., as well as in spiritualism. Further mantra states (YAHA) who (AAHUTI) put offerings into pious burning fire of havan kund with ghee, samagri etc., (VEDEN)through the study of Vedas and (SWADHVARAHA) performing Yajyen and doing pious deeds (NAMASAHA) takes the vegetarian food (TASYA IT ARVANTAHA)He enjoys a long, happy life with horses and other comforts. Here the meaning of horses is that as Vedas also state, horse-power vehicles and aeroplanes etc., must be made for the use and comfort of human-beings.
In the mantra there is also three types of education to human-beings-
(1) Must do agnihotra daily.
(2) Must study eternal knowledge of Vedas which emanates direct from God at the time of beginning of every earth.
(3) One must donate to the needy and deserving place.
So the mantra has no connection with sacrifization etc. All the ancient as well as present spiritual acharyas/learned of Vedas prove that the Vedas are immortal knowledge which emanate direct from the God. In Vedas, there is no mention about violence etc. Only kings/administrators have been asked to punish or sentence to death the criminals/culprits to establish peace in the nation. So how Mr. D.N. Jha has compared the offerings of twigs, ghee and other vegetables to the pious burning fire of havan kund/bedi with the sacrifice? He should accept his sin against the eternal, immortal voice of Almighty God and must study Vedas under guidance of learned acharya of Vedas.