BB: Honoured swamiji dear sir there is a young man in usa & has a following of hundreds of people who follow him. he is on facebook. do you think he will be the new avtar like lord krishna
Swami Ram Swarup: My blessings to you. Avtarwad is not possible. As regards Sri Ram and Sri Krishan Maharaj, they were not avtars and in this regard, I paste one of my answers below:-
God is only one who creates the universe and no other can create the universe except God. Please think deeply is any one except God empowered for creation, etc.? The pious qualities of God are unlimited whereas qualities of soul, which resides in human body, are limited. That is why He is God. This fact is also mentioned by Rishi Patanjali in his Yog shastra sutra 1/24, “KALEASHKARAMVIPAKASHYAIHI APRAMRISHTAHA PURUSHVISHESHAHA ISHWARAHA” i.e., He who is not indulged in any sorrows/sufferings (kalesh), in any kind of deed (karma) and result thereof (vipakya), He is supreme in souls and is called Ishwar (God), whereas, soul is indulged in all the said matters according to deeds done in previous, and in the present life. So this is also a difference between God and souls and therefore soul can never be God based on the different qualities.
Amongst unlimited qualities of God, few may be enumerated-that God creates, nurses and destroys the universe. God is omnipresent, omniscient and omnipotent and Almighty, beyond description, beyond imagination, and beyond calculation. Nobody on the earth can deny such qualities, but these qualities are to be discussed and considered deeply and he who does the same is called MUNI as per Vedas and shastras.
Let us think over one quality of God – Being Almighty. Almighty means God has all powers and thus God, to control the universe and to do any kind of deed for the same, can not be dependent on another, at any cost, being Almighty. Again shastras say, which is a true saying too, that there must be reason behind for any creation, matter etc. God is a reason to create the universe. Parents are the reason to give birth to a child. Ravana took Sita forcefully which became a reason for war between Shri Ram and Ravana etc. So as per Vedas there must be a reason of avtar and after studying eternal knowledge of Vedas and thinking deeply, there seems no reason to take avtar by Almighty God. As in Yajurveda mantra 2/26, so is in Shwetashwataropnishad shlok 6/8 wherein it is mentioned that there is no reason to form a God and thus God is also formless i.e., nobody can make God but God creates universe from non-alive prakriti. Secondly the said Upnishad says that the deeds of God of creation, nursing, and destruction of universe are eternal, natural, and automatic. So naturally God needs no avtar to destroy Kalyug, earth, or devils etc., being Almighty i.e., God has all powers and is independent. Not God but only His powers are enough to control, create, nurse, destroy the universe. That is why Upnishad says that God has no desire to create etc., but it is eternal and natural and this sort of desire is named “IKSHAN” and not desire to create etc.
Suppose God has to kill a devil and He takes avtar and God kills the devils by arrow etc. It means God is not Almighty and independent because God has taken help of Avtar (Human body) and arrow, gun, etc., which is impossible.
This all I have told based on fundamental law of eternal knowledge of four Vedas. Yet if anybody says about avtar then it is their own views and they are satisfied with their views and can not be commented because they could have been realizing at their own but so far as eternal knowledge of Vedas is concerned, Avtar is not possible.
K S: Guru ji aap ko hamare poore parivaar ka namaskkar aur charn sparsh..18-19-april-2011 ko aap ke darshan ke baad ab meri behen bhi havan karti hai.aur woh bhi ved aur aap se bahut prabhavit hai. aap ki bahut kripa hui hai us per. guru ji aap ke vachano me aur kitabon me kha gya ki eishwar ne 4 non sexual creations ki jin me ved prakat kiye shrishti ke aarambh me..ek din is baat ko le kar evolution pe charcha hui…phir ye sawal khada hua ki..humans evolved from apes in early age..but ap kw ek aur article me padha ki apes se evolution nahi hua….ab prashan yeh hai ki nari ke bina generation aage nahi bad sakti…toh phir 4 munion ne samaj ki utpatti kaise ki….aap kripya samaj ki utpatti pe roshni dalen aur kripya yek bhi btane ki kripa hum per karen ki shre ram aur shri krishna ji kaunn se manuantar me aaye the…dhanyawaad guruji…aap ko pranam aur ved mandir me sabhi sadhvi mataon ko bi bahut pranam
Swami Ram Swarup: Mera aapko aur aapki behan ko ashirwad. Non-sexual creation hui. Weh sirf chaar Rishiyon ki nahin hui thee. Yeh baat maine kai baar satsang mein bhi kahee hai aur kitabon mein bhee likhee hai ki non-sexual creation mein nar-nari dono young stage mein utpann hue the. Manushyon mein se chaar Rishi separate kiye aur unhein gyan diya.
VEDAS ARE ETERNAL CULTURE OF THE WORLD
This is a Truth that even today every religion decides the truth or untruth based on its religious holy book. This is also a well known fact accepted by the world that in the world’s library (In Britain also) the four Vedas are the most ancient holy books of the world.
Yajurveda Chapter 31 & Rigveda Mandal 10 Sukta 129, state that the knowledge of four Vedas emanates directly from Almighty God at the time of creation. Knowledge can be received only when someone gives knowledge to others. That is why before more than 5,000 years Rishi Patanjali told in Yog Shastra Sutra 1/26 that Almighty God is Spiritual master of first four Rishis. In the Vedas there is no mention of any sects and caste system. We, the human beings are the children of only one Almighty God.
As stated in Rigveda mantra “Sa Naha Pitev” i.e., Almighty God is like our father. In the Vedas, meaning of father is he who nurses, protects and takes care. Moreover, every body knows that Almighty God nurses the universe by providing air, water, food, earth to live upon etc. Manusmriti is also a holy book written by Manu after studying Vedas. The life of present creation has been stated as 4 arab, 29 crore, 40 lakhs and 80 thousand years. However, Manusmriti gives the proof in its chapter one that present time of the earth is 7th Manvantar, uptil now 6 manvantars have already elapsed. Those are Swayambhuva, Swarochish, Auttami, Tamas, Raivat and Chaakshush, now it is 7th manvantar, called Vaivasvat, which is pulling on.
71 chaturyugi form 1 manvantar.
There are four yug— Satyug, Treta, Dwapur and Kaliyug. These yugas extend upto following years –
(i). Satyug = 17 lakhs 28 thousands years
(ii). Treta = 12 lakhs 96 thousands years
(iii). Dwapur = 8 lakhs 64 thousands years
(iv). Kaliyug = 4 lakhs 32 thousands years
The total of four Yugas comes to be 43 lakhs and 20 thousands years which is equal to one Chaturyugi. 71 Chaturyugi i.e., 30 crore 67 lakhs and 20 thousands years equal to one Manvantar and 6 Manvantar have yet passed whose calculation comes to one Arab 84 crore 30 lakhs and 20 thousands years. This is 7th Manvantar and 28 Chaturyugi and the present Kaliyug has passed its time of more than 5000 years. So up till now the age of the earth and Vedas is one Arab 96 crore 8 lakhs 53 thousand one hundred and eleven years. Bhagwad Geeta shlok 8/17 also says about this fact. Manusmriti shloka 1/64 to 1/80 also say that at that time there were no sects or caste system. And there was no word as ‘Hindu’ prevalent at that time.
The word Hindu, sect or caste system is also not mentioned in holy books like Upnishads, Shastras and Valmiki Ramayana, Shatpath Brahmin Granth etc, the truth in the said holy granths has already been mentioned by the Rishis who wrote the granth. The truth is that they first learnt Vedas, practised its preach like doing hard practice of Ashtang Yoga, realised God and thereafter based on Vedas knowledge only, they wrote the said granths. In this way, they tried to make the future generation understand that knowledge is only gained when it is given by someone.
So, the Vedas are self-proof as has been already stated in shastras like Yog Shastra sutra 1/7. But due to our bad luck, after Mahabharat War, the knowledge of Vedas has diminished for one or the other reason and now those granths have been popularized containing most of the views which do not tally with Vedas.
Infact it is clearly mentioned in these books that there is only one God of the universe. Yajurveda Chapter 31, Rigveda Mandal 10 Sukta 129 Mantra 1-6, Samveda Mantra 617- 621 says that this universe including Earth and all human beings is the creation of one Almighty God. Manusmriti Shloka 1/21 also says that cow, horse, mankind etc., are made by God and its name are given in Vedas. Shlokas 1/136-141 and 2/17 say that in whole of the Earth, the man and woman took birth only in Trivishtup (present Tibet).
Those who have good qualities are named Arya and those who get entangled in bad deeds are called Dasyu (dacoit or Asur). The whole of the mankind at that time were called Aryans and Dasyus accordingly. After so many years the Aryans migrated downwards and where they started living they named the place Aryavrat and long afterwards it was named as Bharatvarsh. Bharat means Vedvani that is Ved mantras in four Vedas as mentioned in Rigveda mantra 3/53/12. The meaning of said mantra is that Almighty God protects all those who know and respect the Bhartam (Ved mantras).
So when the voice of four Vedas is there in Indians, there will be automatic protection from God because the ved mantras is the knowledge originated in the heart of selected four pious souls of previous Earth at the time of present creation, their names are Agni, Vayu, Aaditya and Angira Rishi. Vedas are thus not books, this is knowledge generated in the heart of the said four Rishis.
Long after, that is, after one Arab and more than 96 crore years this knowledge which was being learned by heart generation to generation orally was written on Bhoj Patra by Vyas Muni and in 18th Century it was published. Most of the Indians have forgotten this eternal and supernatural Vedas knowledge which advocates that there is only one God of the universe who creates, nurses and destroy the universe and after destroying creates the universe again. This is faith in Vedas as is the faith of every man or woman in their respective religious book. The Aryavrat country extends geographically from Himalayas in North to Vindhyachal in South; in West from Attak river that drains into ocean upto present Brahmaputra in the East.
From middle of Himalayas to South including string of mountains upto Rameshwar and including Vindhyachal as well, the entire area is called “Aryavrat Desh” whose present name is Bharatvarsh or Hindustan or India in English. Mahabharata also tells about the same fact. In view of this it is proved that all mankind took birth in Tibet. And there was no sect at that time.
Mahabhart or Bhagwad Geeta was written by Vyas Muni about 5,084 years back. And Valmiki Ramayana is written about 9 crore years back. In these authentic holy books sect or caste-system has not been mentioned. We all human-beings were called Aryans upto 5,000 years ago and thereafter too. The Indian philosophy got a golden cradle to thrive and flourish in Takshila and Nalanda University where the students from all parts of the world used to come to study Vedas and other subjects. Those all were called Aryans at that time. First time Greeks and Unanis used the word Indu for Sindhu ocean and also for the public who lived on the banks of Sindhu. Thereafter Arabians started saying word Hindi for the Aryans who lived across Sindhu river. So, whosoever was living across the Sindhu, whether Muslim, Christian etc., was called Indu and then Hindu. So word was used for all those who lived across the Sindhu. Hence, there was no word except Aryans before 5,000 years and thereafter also it is clear that word Hindu is being used only for the last 2-3 thousand years. Within these years only Islam, Jainism, Buddhism, Christianity, Sikh religion came into existence and those who were studying Vedas, Shastras, Upnishads, Brahmin Granth, Bhagwad Geeta, Ramayana have been categorized as Hindus instead of Aryans. Whole of the world knows about the fact of origin of these religions. So whole of the world can not be considered Hindu now at this belated stage. The study of all religions conclude that no religion preaches hatred, war or quarreling etc. Every religion speaks about love, living together, worship of one Almighty God, live and let live and to promote brotherhood internationally. The whole mankind thus should try to remove the ravages of hatred at all levels.
Aashish: Blank question.
Swami Ram Swarup: Question has not been received, please.