Shalu: Bhoot pret aatma kya ye sab real life me hote hai?
Swami Ram Swarup: Bhoot pret, aatma ka varnnan vedon mein nahin hai apitu Yajurved adhyaye 39 ke anusar jeevatma mrityu ke samay shareer se nikal kar tehra din ke baad doosre shareer mein chali jaati hai. Isliye bhoot pret banane ka sawal nahin hota. In this regard, I paste my article as under-
There is no existence of ghosts. But mostly the people who want to earn money or try to take enjoyment make it popular through falsehood and self- made frauds. They only spread such false worship of ghosts. They only promote the said worship by giving false proof of existence of ghosts and people are attracted and accept the same as if it is true.
In short I give two instances:
A poor man met me. He was suffering from acute stomach pain. He told me that his relative had taken him so many times to a baba who used to do treatment of ghost. The man was beaten badly there number of times, to accept that there was a ghost in him. The poor man said to me that at last helplessly, he (poor man) accepted that the ghost is within him, only to save himself from beating. But the fact was that he was having acute stomach pain. When such person accepts existence of ghost under pressure then the people who are present there, accept and start saying that they are eye-witness when the person accepted the existence of ghost.
This is what the false worshippers of ghosts want. They actually thus achieve the result of beating of the poor people. I suggested him some medicine and yoga asan and he became all right soon.
Second instance is that one of my followers brought a gentleman to me. He told that his friend’s daughter is caught by five witches. He further told the story that when the girl goes to bathroom in the morning, there the five witches slap on her upper arms and the sign of slaps of fingers exist on arms. The girl faints. So this story also looks a true one. But a learned person of Vedas, who is aware of the fundamental law of nature never accepts such stories at any cost to be a true one.
According to Yajurveda chapter 39, the fundamental law states that when alive soul leaves the human body, the soul remains under control of sutratma Vaayu by the power of God. At this time the soul always remains in sushuptwastha i.e., like in comma till rebirth. So how a soul can be a ghost? And in a stage of comma (sushuptwastha) how a soul can give harm to anybody?
I thought if I will straightaway refuse the existence of ghost, then the problem will not be solved, because the father of the girl was firm believer of ghost. So I told that this girl must come to me along with her parents daily at least for 10-15 days then she will be okay.
When first day the girl came to me, I asked her to tell all about the witches/ghosts etc. She repeated the story and told that her parents had spent lot of money to cure her. Her parents used to take her to such persons who dealt with such cases of ghosts. The persons used to ask her parents to offer wine, chicken etc., which her parents provided. She used to sit before them continuously for full night also. She was beaten by them with iron chains a number of times.
The second day I started giving her preach of Vedas. After one week, with the result of preach of Vedas, I was able to make her understand that there is no existence of ghost on the earth and she agreed.
Based on fundamental law of God I already knew that there is no ghost on the earth and the girl is telling all lies. Then in a friendly and pleasant atmosphere I told her that O daughter! When you have understood the fact of non-existence of ghosts then tell me truly about the story of witches and the signs of slaps with five fingers on the upper arms and what about fainting. I myself made a promise to her that I shall never tell her statement to anybody. Then she told that she is a student of class 9th and she never wants to go to school. But forcefully her parents used to send her to school then she thought to play such game.
When she was about to go to school in the morning she used to enter the bathroom and used to beat herself on both the upper arms leaving the signs of fingers thereon. She used to do the acting of fainting and afterwards she used to tell her parents that in the bathroom she saw five witches who beat her. With the result of such drama she used to enjoy the remaining day as holiday.
Then I told her that if she does not want to go to school, whatever may be the reason, I will make her parents agree, but she should stop doing such acting. And I will not tell anything to anybody. She agreed.
Next day I called her parents without girl and told them that I have cured their daughter. Now the witches will not come again but in this process they should stop their daughter from going to school. I asked them to arrange her education privately. Now she is married having sons and daughters.
After a lapse of six years I told the above true story in one of my regular preach where my follower who brought the case to me, was sitting in the public. Now he is a retired Govt., servant from a higher gazetted post. He was very much surprised after listening the fact.
So we must follow the fundamental law of nature only then there will be no problem to understand the truth.
QUALITIES OF SOULS (JEEVATAMA)
Soul is alive. Soul has to face the result of his deeds. Soul takes body of human beings, animals, birds, trees etc., according to deeds of past lives. Soul feels sorrow, happiness etc., through body. When soul leaves body, it feels nothing but carries all karma to be faced in next birth through his chitta’s (chitta) vritti (vritti).
Souls are innumerable but are constant in number having similar qualities like being pure, immortal, alive etc. Soul is infinitesimally small, is invisible. The bodies of all living beings contain souls.
Not God but soul has desire, hatred/malice, merriment, sufferings, attachment etc. While attracting itself towards materialistic articles made of prakriti soul forgets his original form. As a result, soul recognizes himself as body. This is the stage of soul being unwise.
“NA TAM VIDATH YA IMA JAJAANANYUDYUSHMAKAMANTARAM BABHOOVA,
NEEHAREINN PRAVRITA JALAPYA CHASUTRIP UKTHASHASCHARANTI.”
(RIGVEDA MANTRA 10/82/7)
(TAM) that God (NA) not ( VIDATH) known (YAH) who (EMA) all worlds (JAJANN) creates and (YAT) from you (ANYAT) separate from other souls(YUSHMAKAM) from you (ANTARAM) with in all (BABHOOVA) is (NIHAREINN) fog like smoke (YAT) that God (PRAVARITAHA) covered (JALAPYAHA) baseless discussion (ASUTRIPAHA) satisfied only in Prann [breathing system] (UKTHASHASAHA) only paying lip service (CHARANTI) deals or behaves.
Meaning: Like an invisible matter which is covered with fog similarly dealing in only lip service and indulging in baseless discussion and are satisfied in their breathing system, Oh! Man-woman, you do not know the God who creates the five matters/universe and the God who is separate from other souls and who is within all.
Shashikant: Swamiji ,Pranaam ,,,Aapse ek prashn poochna hai,,Giani ditt singh kaun the aur 1877 main unka swami dayanand se koi Saastrarth hua tha? Ek link par ek Sikh bandhu ye keh rahe hain ki swamiji ko unhone niruttar kar diya tha j?Arya samaj ki books main Giani ditt singh par jyada kuch padne ko kyun nahi milta? Krapaya kar ke sanka samadhaan karen….
Swami Ram Swarup: My blessings to you. Maine bhee Giani ditt Singh ke bare mein kuch nahin padaa hai. Isliye kshma karien ki main unke baarey mein kuch nahin jaanta.
Brahmchari: Om namaste swami ji, maine kuch din pahle mail kiya tha mai apke jawab ki partiksha me laga hoon . mai ghar parivar sab chod chuka hoon aur mai 06 sabhi darshan padhna chahta hoon. Kripya meri samasya ko dur kare aur mai apki utar ki partiksha ke karan mai net ka paryog kar raha hoon anytha kuch dino ke liye mai maun karna chahta hoon. Please reply me soon. Namaste ji.
Swami Ram Swarup: Mera tumhein ashirwad. Mere paas jitney bhee prashann aaye hain un sabhi ka uttar de chukka hoon. Aapko yadi uttar nahin mila to aap apna prashan dubara bhej dein. Aapko ghar-parivar kisi ved ke gyata vidwan kee salah ke bina nahin chodna chahiye. Six shastras to ghar mein bhee padey ja sakte hain.
Murthy: Pranaam when we do shraddha to our ancestors, will it benefit them them in their present lives? Why should we perform pitrukarmas? Pranaam.
Swami Ram Swarup: My blessings to you. In this regard I paste my articles –
The alive parents are to be served faithfully. Everybody knows that a person who is alive takes food, water, puts on clothes etc. After death body is burnt. Now how the parents will be able to take food. They according to the karmas get next birth too. So shradh is against the Vedas’ philosophy.
Offerings to departed soul
According to Yajurveda mantra 40/15, the last religious deed is daah karma (cremation) i.e., when dead body has been placed on pyre and burnt thereafter only the ashes are to be thrown in a flowing water. After that no deed is left to be done. However, Vedas tell that one should perform Yajyen. So, for the departed soul, we can only perform Yajyen every year which gives pious result and which is even the best worship of God. Next birth is totally based on our good or bad deeds as is also stated in Rigveda mantra 10/135/1 to 6. We are free to do good or bad deeds but the result is awarded by God as per Yajurveda mantra 7/48.
There is no other way to provide any offerings such as water, til, food, etc. to the departed souls as per Vedas. You see soul is totally dependent. Soul eats with mouth, sees with eyes, listen with ears, etc., and when whole body of the departed soul has been burnt on pyre and soul has taken next birth according to deeds then how the water , til or food can be taken by the departed soul. As stated above, after cremation, no deed is left to be done.
So pitr pooja, etc. is not according to Vedas. However, amongst five Yajyen –a daily Yajyen named Balivaishvadev Yajyen is performed in married life by the family. In the said Yajyen, a small portion of prepared food is placed on paper and is placed in open space where any bird/animal takes the same easily.
Pitra karma performed for those pitra, who have died, are not mentioned in Vedas. So, due to lack of Vedas knowledge, people may perform it.
Ragu: Hello, I live in Malaysia and been trying to find ways to learn more about vedas. I can’t find much about it here as most people are preaching idol worship. I am a Hindu but never been to India or learned Sanskrit or Tamil (which is my mother tongue).I always believed there is only one god and never had practised idol worship. I find other religion teaching hard to follow. There in I have lost faith in god and started believing that there is no god before knowing the root if Hinduism is vedas. I really like to learn more and is there anyone in Malaysia who you know that could teach me more about Vedas? Any other way also would be nice as I do want to practise vedas way of life. Thank you in advanced for your reply.
Swami Ram Swarup: Sorry, I do not know any learned of Vedas in Malaysia. However, you may contact with local Arya Samaj mandir where you will be advised properly.
Your views are appreciated, that you do not do idol worship. We must always be God fearing. To enter into Vedas knowledge you are advised to read any of followings books and listen to spiritual Cds (with preach) if you desire.
List of books is appended below, please —–
S. No. NAMES OF BOOK COST PAGES
1. PATANJAL YOG DARSHAN PT I 131.00 332
2. PATANJAL YOG DARSHAN PT II 300.00 295
3. VEDIC PRAVACHAN SANGRAH(Reprinted) 120.00 118
4. VEDIC SATSANG SANGRAH PT II 12.00 29
5. MANAV DHARAM SHIKSHA 21.00 88
6. ATMIK UDGAR 51.00 42
7. DIL SE DIL KI BAAT 21.00 20
8 YAJ KARAM SARVSHRESHTH ISHWAR POOJA 65.00 132
9. BRAHAMCHARYA DUKH NIVARAK
DIVYA MANNI 100.00 173
10. MRITYU EK KATU SATYA 20.00 63
11. BHAJAN KIRTAN 40.00 64
12. SHRIMADBHAGWAD GEETA
EK VEDIC RAHSYA (CHAP. 1-6) 400.00 739
13. SHRIMADBHAGWAD GEETA
EK VEDIC REHASYA (CHAP. 7-12) 400.00 594
14. SANDHYA MANTRA 25.00 33
15. VEDIC PRAVACHAN SANGRAH PT II 120.00 124
16. SHRIMADBHAGWAD GEETA
EK VEDIC RAHSYA (Chap. 13-15) 250.00 246
17. NAARI DUSHKARMIYON
PAR VEDON DWARA DAND 25.00 38
(IN HINDI 1-17)
18. VEDANTA & ETERNAL VEDAS’
PHILOSOPHY PT I 31.00 77
19. VEDANTA AND ETERNAL VEDAS’
PHILOSOPHY PT II 20.00 92
20. YOGA A DIVINE VEDAS PHILOSOPHY 65.00 123
21. VEDAS A DIVINE LIGHT Pt. I 80.00 190
22. PROTECT THE HOLY COW, SAY VEDAS 40.00 58
23. VEDAS A DIVINE LIGHT PT. II 121.00 279
24. VEDAS A DIVINE LIGHT PT. III 100.00 126
25. VEDAS A DIVINE LIGHT PT. IV 100.00 154
26. VEDAS A DIVINE LIGHT PT. V 140.00 104
27. VEDIC PUNISHMENT FOR CRIMINALS 25.00 54
(IN ENGLISH 18-27)
28. VEDA – DIVYA GNANA (translated in Kannada)
(Originally in English as vedas a divine light pt. I ) 120.00 202
29. VEDAM–VAAZHVIN VAZHIKATTI
(Translated in Tamil) 120.00 218
(Originally in English as VEDAS A DIVINE LIGHT PT. I )
30. VEDA – DIVYA GNANA (translated in Kannada)
(Originally in English as vedas a divine light pt. II ) 100.00 111
31.PROTECT THE HOLY COW, SAY VEDAS
(translated in Tamil) 50.00 68
(translated in Tamil) 12.00 16
33. NARI DUSHKARMIYON NE VEDON DVARA DAND
(translated in Gujarati) 35.00 38
(IN OTHER LANGUAGES)
LIST OF CASSETTES & CDs Sung by Swamijee
1. SANT VANNI CASSETTES (PT 1-8) 35.00 EACH
2. BHAJ GOVINDAM CASSETTE 35.00
3. VCDS VEDOIN KEE CHHAWON TALE PT1&2 50.00 EACH
4. ISHWAR KEE AWAZ SUNO (ACD) 36.00
5. SAB MEIN VYAPAK JYOTI EK (ACD) 36.00
6. SANT VANNI PT. 1-4 (ACD) 35.00 EACH
7. VALMIKI RAMAYAN (ACD) 36.00
8. ISHWAR BIN SUKH NAHIN (ACD) 36.00
9.SARVAVYAPAK ISHWAR MAHIMA SUNO(ACD) 36.00
10. SAB GOBIND HAI (ACD) 45.00
11. AMRIT VANNI VED (ACD) 36.00
12. BHAJ GOVINDAM (ACD) 35.00
13. Ved vanni ke updesh (ACD) 36.00
14. Prabhu sa koi duja( ACD) 36.00
My blessings to you.