Puru: If this materialistic world is an illusion then why should we indulge ourselves in academics (I am in class 12) or any job instead of just focussing on salvation?
Swami Ram Swarup: Materialistic world is not illusion. Actually, not to know the materialistic world according to Vedas and not to know how its matters are utilized, vide Yajurved mantra 40/1 is illusion.
So, most of the people are utilizing the materialistic articles without vedic knowledge and as a result indulging themselves in illusion, creating within vices like anger, pride, ego sensuality etc.
One should study Vedas to become a learned person and to utilize materialistic articles without involving oneself in it.
Materialistic articles are made by God for our benefit and happiness. Vedas again tell that one sided progress is always harmful. There are two paths.
1. Vedic spiritualism
2. Worldly pious matters.
One should get progress in both above paths simultaneously. Therefore, studies, doing job, discharging moral duties towards family, society and nation have been preached in Vedas as pious deeds.
I paste my article in this connection:-
Yajurveda mantra 40/2
KURVANNEVEHA KARMANNI JIJEEVISHECHCHATANG SAMAHA.
EVAM TVAI NAANYATHETOASTI NA KARMA LIPYATE NAREY.
In the ved mantra, the eternal knowledge which emanates directly from God in the beginning of every creation is preached to all human-beings for the benefit of their entire life by following it. Our ancient Raj Rishis like Sri Ram, Sri Krishna Maharaj, King Harishchandra and their public followed only Vedic path and enjoyed long, happy life. However, in the absence of Vedic knowledge, mostly, the present public has indulged in illusion and the prevalence of ill free, long, happy life or bright future is not observed. Mantra inspires us to do only the pious deeds mentioned in Vedas. Age of Vedas today is One Arab, Ninety six crore, Eight Lakh, fifty three thousand, one hundred and thirteen years. Everybody should know that at the beginning of the creation and uptil Mahabharat war i.e., about five thousand three hundred years ago, present religions i.e., Hindus, Muslims, Sikhs, Christians, Parsis, Jains etc., did not exist.It is a proof that Vedic knowledge has been blessed by God for all human-beings and it is equally applicable to all humans at present as well.
One thing is also to be known that Vedas are not sects. So, all men and women dealing with their respective religion, may still follow the Vedic preach, which emanates directly from God, while continuing to believe in their respective religions because God is one for all and we all are His children and hence are brothers and sisters. Vedas state to us to shower our heartiest love to all human-beings.
In this Ved mantra, God preaches:-
(IH) All human-beings, in this world (KURVANNEIV) while doing (KARMANNI) pious deeds mentioned in Vedas, i.e., discharging one’s moral duties (JIJEEVISHEIT) should desire to live (SHATAM) for hundred (SAMAHA)
Here, the meaning of Karma is not religion or sect.
In the mantra, the deepest meaning of “Karmanni” i.e., pious deeds, is that the deeds preached in the Vedas are pious and those deeds which are against the Vedas are sins. This pious idea has also been mentioned by Rishi Kannada in his Vaisheshikshastra Sutra 1/2 which states-
“YATAHA ABHYUDAYANIHI SHREYAS SIDDHIHI SAHA DHARMAHA.”
Meaning- Dharma is that pious deed, by doing which, we get all pious comforts and pleasure in this present life and also attain salvation. In Manusmriti, karma has been very clearly defined that-
“VEDAH AKHILAHA DHARMAMOOLAM”
i.e., all pious deeds emanate from Vedas. Based on Vedic philosophy, Sri Krishna Maharaj has also stated in Bhagwad Geeta shloka 3/15 that Oh! Arjun! Vedas emanate from Almighty God and form of all pious deeds emanates from Vedas. So, there is no reason to negate the Vedas, Shastras and do deeds at our own. This world is created by God and He is our Lord. So, if we deny His Vedic preach then surely we will never get any peace or pleasure in life. The said fundamental law will have to be obeyed by all humans, being the preach of our lord, the administrator.
That is why, Yajurveda mantra 7/23 states that to get knowledge, take shelter of a learned of four Vedas because without knowledge all deeds done by us will go in vain and without deeds no knowledge can be attained. So, it is a Vedic preach that everybody should leave the laziness and by obeying Vedic preach should do all pious deeds and leave impious deeds [sins]. It is only possible if we maintain Brahmacharya, pious desires, get knowledge and the best education of Vedas, the result of which is “ShatamSamahaJijeevisheit” i.e., to overcome death and attain hundred years of happy life.
Mantra further states-
(NAREY) Oh! Man (EVAM) in this way, i.e., by always doing Vedic pious deeds (TVAI) in you (KARMA) deeds against the Vedas i.e., sins (NA LIPYATEY) would not entangle you.
Idea- Those who follow Vedic path and always do pious deeds, for instance, Sri Ram, Mata Sita, the ancient Rishi-Munis, Raj Rishis, they day by day become habitual to do only pious deeds and automatically their mind and intellect would drift away from sins.
In this way, they get the result of enhancing Vedic education, life span and divine qualities. This is the way to overcome tension, problems, sickness, blind faith etc., and to achieve salvation. If we do not follow the same then naturally we will become habitual of telling lies, taking bribery, committing corruption, injustice, following caste-system, bonded labour, do injustice to women and commit thousands of other types of sins because of not following Vedic path which alone hinders us from committing sins etc.
Mantra further clarifies that –
(ITAHA) Except this i.e., without following Vedic path and deeds (ANYATHA NA ASTI) there is no way to leave the sins.
Idea- There is no other way in respect of human-beings, not to be entangled in sins i.e., a devotee when starts doing only pious deeds preached in Vedas, then he will never be entangled in sins.
It has been our bad luck that we have forgotten to attain Vedic preach in life, this being the knowledge given by God, who is our lord. In the absence of Vedic knowledge, we mostly get indulged in illusion. Because the above mantra states that if we follow the Vedic path, always do Vedic pious deeds and thus discharge our moral duties faithfully then our said pious deeds affect us and even Ved mantras affect us and separate us away from illusion i.e., sins, for our entire life i.e., mantra stresses that there is no other way to drift away from sins and get long, happy life, free from illusion along with salvation. So, when God stresses in this mantra that there is no other solution to get away from illusion, tension, problems, diseases and to attain salvation, except by doing deeds according to Vedas, then why are we people doing deeds at our own i.e., against the Vedas?
Bhootpooja (Ghost worship), Idol worship, Tantrikism, mangalik matter, Teva, NavgrahPoojan, Shradh, not to serve parents, elders, learned acharya of Vedas, not to do daily Yajyen/Havan, not to listen or to follow Vedas, are thousand’s of sinful deeds which we have been doing at our own and result is evident before us that entire world is surrounded in problems, early deaths, baseless wars, killing innocent public and soldiers, violence, corruption, blind faith, etc.
Doesn’t it show our selfishness which generates in the absence of Vedic knowledge.
Did Sri Ram, King Dashrath, Harishchandra and several ancient kings, who followed Vedas, made their people helpless or face injustice, poverty, malnutrition, hunger, corruption, without security (only leaders get security now). Did at that time the sinful deeds mentioned above exist? Answer is ‘No’. Due to influence of knowledge of four Vedas everywhere, the falsehood i.e., deeds against the Vedas, did not exist. This fact can be seen in Valmiki Ramayan and Mahabharat epic written by Valmikiji and Vyas Muniji respectively. Blind worship of God has also ruined our nation, which cannot be stopped in the absence of Vedic knowledge.
So, spiritualism is not that God will help us if we are indulged completely in his worship alone but spiritualism is this that God will take care of us if we follow the Vedic preach completely in all respects i.e., spiritualism as well as worldly pious matters. Spiritualism infact mentally conditions the patient and helps him to stop non-vegetarian and any kind of addiction. So, mostly such people do not get indulged in any serious illness and even are cured speedily. On the other hand, non- spiritual persons become helpless to face the dire consequences of addiction, etc.
One more thing, nobody gets sorrows, without reason. The reason is that he in his previous or present life has done sins. God is supreme judge and imparts justice. He never does injustice or favourism. This fact is also stated in Yajurveda mantra 7/48 that the soul in human body does good or bad deeds but almighty God does justice and gives result thereof in the shape of happiness and sorrows. He never excuses the culprit. Hence, we must never blame God in any problem or sorrows but must seek knowledge to stop doing sins and follow Vedic path as stated above. It will only be possible if we make contact with learned acharya of Vedas and listen to Vedic knowledge from him and follow the same. Otherwise, days and nights are laboring on ruining our life. Problem is this that in the absence of Vedic knowledge, being duly indulged in illusion, everybody treat sorrows, ruining of life as pleasure, which is the effect of illusion i.e., Avidya as per Yogshastra sutra 2/5. So, we must obey our Lord, the Almighty God to follow Vedic path which is not sect.
I would like to mention here that as per SankhyaShastra sutra 3/78, Yogi gets salvation but since he is in human body, so if he in any case forgets to follow Vedic teaching, he is also declared defaulter and God, without any favour or hesitation, gives punishment to a Yogi. With the blessings of Paramguru, I got enlightentment on 19th March, 1979. I have been preaching to all, that Yogi is also not exempted by God for any default and I have also faced a long serious sickness in July. Why? Because Atharvaveda states to take care of health, with timely intake of plenty of food and water, to give rest to body, not to preach for a long time continuously etc. But, for the benefit of all concerned, I did not observe the same and preached continuously for several hours without taking food, water or timely meals. Here, it is to be noted that I forgot the order of Almighty God given in Atharvaveda. Secondly, countless blessings given to people from my side also affected my life because it is clearly stated in Shastras that acharya will have to suffer one-fourth of the pain, problems of devotees whom he blesses. Vedas and SankhyaShastra sutra 3/78 clarify that in this way also the stage of salvation of a Yogi does not end because he is a Yogi. So, he always remains a liberated soul. However, according to SankhyaShastra sutra 3/82, he is holding alive human body. Therefore, based on Prarabdh karmas, he carries on in his body. So, according to SankhyaShastra sutra 3/83, Yogi has to face the result of deeds also. But his stage of final liberation i.e., mukti will remain as it is. That is not disturbed. But the Yogi faces the result of karmas happily, peacefully and in divine pleasure stage because he has got divine knowledge of Vedas. So, everyone should be alert and strictly follow Vedic education.
I would also like to advise you to study some of my vedic book. The price of the book is given below excluding postal charges. The book can be sent to you on receipt of your postal address, if you desire.
List of books is appended below, please —–
S. No. NAMES OF BOOK COST PAGES
1. PATANJAL YOG DARSHAN PT I 131.00 332
2. PATANJAL YOG DARSHAN PT II 300.00 295
3. VEDIC PRAVACHAN SANGRAH(Reprinted) 120.00 118
4. VEDIC SATSANG SANGRAH PT II 12.00 29
5. MANAV DHARAM SHIKSHA 21.00 88
6. ATMIK UDGAR 51.00 42
7. DIL SE DIL KI BAAT 21.00 20
8 YAJ KARAM SARVSHRESHTH ISHWAR POOJA 65.00 132
9. BRAHAMCHARYA DUKH NIVARAK
DIVYA MANNI 100.00 173
10. MRITYU EK KATU SATYA 20.00 63
11. BHAJAN KIRTAN 40.00 64
12. SHRIMADBHAGWAD GEETA
EK VEDIC RAHSYA (CHAP. 1-6) 400.00 739
13. SHRIMADBHAGWAD GEETA
EK VEDIC REHASYA (CHAP. 7-12) 400.00 594
14. SANDHYA MANTRA 25.00 33
15. VEDIC PRAVACHAN SANGRAH PT II 120.00 124
16. SHRIMADBHAGWAD GEETA
EK VEDIC RAHSYA (Chap. 13-15) 250.00 246
17. SHRIMADBHAGWAD GEETA
EK VEDIC RAHSYA (Chap. 16-18) 250.00 246
18. NAARI DUSHKARMIYON
PAR VEDON DWARA DAND 25.00 38
(IN HINDI 1-17)
19. VEDANTA & ETERNAL VEDAS’
PHILOSOPHY PT I 31.00 77
20. VEDANTA AND ETERNAL VEDAS’
PHILOSOPHY PT II 20.00 92
21. YOGA A DIVINE VEDAS PHILOSOPHY 65.00 123
22. VEDAS A DIVINE LIGHT PT. I 250.00 190
23. PROTECT THE HOLY COW, SAY VEDAS 40.00 58
24. VEDAS A DIVINE LIGHT PT. II 121.00 279
25. VEDAS A DIVINE LIGHT PT. III 100.00 126
26. VEDAS A DIVINE LIGHT PT. IV 100.00 154
27. VEDAS A DIVINE LIGHT PT. V 140.00 104
28. VEDIC PUNISHMENT FOR CRIMINALS 25.00 54
(IN ENGLISH 18-27)
29. VEDA – DIVYA GNANA (translated in Kannada)
(Originally in English as vedas a divine light Pt. I) 120.00 202
30. VEDAM–VAAZHVIN VAZHIKATTI
(Translated in Tamil) 120.00 218
(Originally in English as VEDAS A DIVINE LIGHT PT. I)
31. VEDA – DIVYA GNANA (translated in Kannada)
(Originally in English as vedas a divine light Pt. II) 100.00 111
32. PROTECT THE HOLY COW, SAY VEDAS
(Translated in Tamil) 50.00 68
33. VEDANU DIVA GYAN (Translated in Gujrati)
(Originally in English as VEDAS A DIVINE LIGHT Pt.I) 120 178
(IN OTHER LANGUAGES 28- 32)
LIST OF CASSETTES & CDs Sung by Swamiji
1. SANT VANNI CASSETTES (PT 1-8) 35.00 EACH
2. BHAJ GOVINDAM CASSETTE 35.00
3. VCDS VEDOIN KEE CHHAWON TALE PT1&2 50.00 EACH
4. ISHWAR KEE AWAZ SUNO (ACD) 36.00
5. SAB MEIN VYAPAK JYOTI EK (ACD) 36.00
6. SANT VANNI PT. 1-4 (ACD) 35.00 EACH
7. VALMIKI RAMAYAN (ACD) 36.00
8. ISHWAR BIN SUKH NAHIN (ACD) 36.00
9.SARVAVYAPAK ISHWAR MAHIMA SUNO(ACD) 36.00
10. SAB GOBIND HAI (ACD) 45.00
11. AMRIT VANNI VED (ACD) 36.00
12. BHAJ GOVINDAM (ACD) 35.00
13. VED VANNI KE UPDESH (ACD) 36.00
14. PRABHU SA KOI NA DOOJA (ACD) 30.00
Anonymous: Pranam Guruji, I one of your works you have said that ” koi kitni bhi koshish ksr le wo truth nahi bol payeega” I could not understand the meaning. Does this means that there is no point in trying or practicing but there have been people like gandhi etc who themselves followed the path of non violence and truth throughout their life, probably without the knowledge of Vedas?
Swami Ram Swarup: My blessings to you. Please quote the full article of mine where I have told that – ” koi kitni bhi koshish kar le woh truth nahi bol payeega” because I would have told that without the knowledge of Vedas it is not possible to follow or tell truth. For example- In vedas, God is formless but respected Gandhiji used to do idol worship in temple. What more can I say however, it is not my meaning that he should not have done idol worship. Everybody is free to follow any path but if person tries to seek the truth from Vedas then based on eternal knowledge of Vedas, learned always tell that without following Vedas, truth cannot be followed. In this connection, Yagyavalkya Rishi states in his Shatpath Brahmin Granth:-
Learned of Vedas i.e., Rishi always speak and follow truth whereas ordinary people speak lies.