Sonali: Pranam guru g… sir thanks fr ur answer but i have one more question about kalki avtar.. Does our last kalki avtar is prophet mohmad of muslims.. i want to know about last avtar in our relegion…
Swami Ram Swarup: My blessings to you, my daughter. You are welcome beti. Kalki avatar matter does not exist in vedas. However, some gentleman at their own claim about the said avtar and I think it is based on their aastha. But again I tell that vedas never promote any Avtarwad, God being one and formless. God is Almighty.
God is formless
Being formless there is no need of statue or temple of God according to Vedas. As a matter of fact, you, I or every human being, lives in a body. Body is separate, we are called souls. Vedas say soul has no form even. Then also we know each other. For example even if you have not seen the photograph of King Akbar then, you can know Akbar by means of the study of his qualities. So is the case with the God. If an aspirant really goes to his Guru and listens Vedas like Shri Ram, and ancient kings and their public then he will be able to know hundred percent about formless God. Then comes realization for which Vedas (especially Samveda) says that he who performs Yajyen, does jaap (according to Vedas) and practises Ashtang Yoga Philosophy while remaining in family like Shri Ram etc., he sure realizes ,being eternal law.
If we will meditate concentrating outside our body which is also against Vedas/Ashtang Yoga Philosophy, then our attention will always naturally remain outside i.e., attached with outer world i.e., decoration/music/dances etc. In that case subject matter of God will be over. It will be converted into spending fun, doing dances and singing attractive songs by ladies and gents, which is totally against Vedas. Thus the chapter of praising God, True Acharya, Rishi-Munis, performing Yajyen, practice of Ashtang Yoga, eternal knowledge of Vedas etc., will be over.
It is also baseless to say that study of Vedas and practice of yoga philosophy is difficult. It is self made story because Vedas are also called Shruti i.e., Vedas are to be listened first and not to be studied. So to listen to the Vedas, a learned Acharya is needed. The Acharya will explain the Ved mantras in the Yajyen in your own language i.e., in English or Urdu etc., and for an aspirant to do asan, pranayaam, meditation etc., is also not difficult. It is all difficult for those human beings, including present false prophets, (who are against the Vedas), who are lazy, can’t awake early in the morning to listen Vedas and fail to do practice of yoga philosophy. Those people are always after money, materialistic articles and pomp and show etc.
Vedas are not written or spoken by God. This knowledge is emanated from God and is originated in the heart of four Rishis as stated above. God is Almighty i.e., He has all powers. So He needs no assistance to do deeds of universe. In human body alive soul resides and soul is dependent, soul requires mouth to speak, eye to see, hand to write etc., etc. but not God. From His power God originates the knowledge of Vedas in the rishis without writing, or speaking etc. Vedas’ knowledge is divine. The fundamental of the Vedas is this that it was not written or spoken. The knowledge by the power of God was originated about one Arab 96 crore, 8 lakh and 53,111 years ago. Then first time the four rishis of nonsexual creation started pronunciation of the mantras by the power of God. God wanted them to know word meanings and sense of the mantras and therefore the rishis knew all. Then first time the four rishis started pronunciation of the mantras. They taught the mantras to other ignorant people. Then more rishis were produced who knew the Vedas by heart by listening only. There was no paper, ink or pen there. The Vedas were being learnt orally and traditionally this process is yet in force. But mostly not by heart but taking help of the printed book. So printed books are not called Vedas but these are called samhita.
Samhita means the collection of Ved mantras. Therefore Present printed books cannot be considered as Vedas and will never be in future, but samhita. Kapil Muni throws light on this point in his Sankhya Shastra sutra 5/48 that when a rishi does tapsya in the shape of Yajyen, study of Vedas, practice of Ashtang Yoga then the Ved mantras still (now also) originate in heart of the Rishi and the rishi pronounces the mantras. Those mantras are called Vedas, which emanate from God. So Vedas must first be listened (study) from alive Acharya (Guru who knows Vedas). Then only Samhita (books of Vedas) can help.
God is only one who creates the universe and no other can create the universe except God. Please think deeply is any one except God empowered for creation, etc.? The pious qualities of God are unlimited whereas qualities of soul, which resides in human body, are limited. That is why He is God. This fact is also mentioned by Rishi Patanjali in his Yog shastra sutra 1/24, “KALEASHKARAMVIPAKASHYAIHI APRAMRISHTAHA PURUSHVISHESHAHA ISHWARAHA” i.e., He who is not indulged in any sorrows/sufferings (kalesh), in any kind of deed (karma) and result thereof (vipakya), He is supreme in souls and is called Ishwar (God), whereas, soul is indulged in all the said matters according to deeds done in previous, and in the present life. So this is also a difference between God and souls and therefore soul can never be God based on the different qualities.
Amongst unlimited qualities of God, few may be enumerated-that God creates, nurses and destroys the universe. God is omnipresent, omniscient and omnipotent and Almighty, beyond description, beyond imagination, and beyond calculation. Nobody on the earth can deny such qualities, but these qualities are to be discussed and considered deeply and he who does the same is called MUNI as per Vedas and shastras.
Let us think over one quality of God – Being Almighty. Almighty means God has all powers and thus God, to control the universe and to do any kind of deed for the same, can not be dependent on another, at any cost, being Almighty. Again shastras say, which is a true saying too, that there must be reason behind for any creation, matter etc. God is a reason to create the universe. Parents are the reason to give birth to a child. Ravana took Sita forcefully which became a reason for war between Shri Ram and Ravana etc. So as per Vedas there must be a reason of avtar and after studying eternal knowledge of Vedas and thinking deeply, there seems no reason to take avtar by Almighty God. As in Yajurveda mantra 2/26, so is in Shwetashwataropnishad shlok 6/8 wherein it is mentioned that there is no reason to form a God and thus God is also formless i.e., nobody can make God but God creates universe from non-alive prakriti. Secondly the said Upnishad says that the deeds of God of creation, nursing, and destruction of universe are eternal, natural, and automatic. So naturally God needs no avtar to destroy Kalyug, earth, or devils etc., being Almighty i.e., God has all powers and is independent. Not God but only His powers are enough to control, create, nurse, destroy the universe. That is why Upnishad says that God has no desire to create etc., but it is eternal and natural and this sort of desire is named “IKSHAN” and not desire to create etc.
Suppose God has to kill a devil and He takes avtar and God kills the devils by arrow etc. It means God is not Almighty and independent because God has taken help of Avtar (Human body) and arrow, gun, etc., which is impossible.
This all I have told based on fundamental law of eternal knowledge of four Vedas. Yet if anybody says about avtar then it is their own views and they are satisfied with their views and can not be commented because they could have been realizing at their own but so far as eternal knowledge of Vedas is concerned, Avtar is not possible.
Vedas have no individual names, please and has no any story even. There are three types of preach— knowledge( science in Rigveda), deeds (type of all moral duties in yajurveda ) and Upasana( worship in Saamveda) and medical science including extra detailed knowledge of God in Atharvaveda. This may be known that when we study mathematics then we study the fundamental of formula etc., and no personal name or any story. Vedas is a knowledge emanates direct from God at the time of unsexual creation. I paste here my article on Vedas for your information, please.
Such question was also sent to me on this web site. The gentle man mentioned Atharvaved mantra number 20/127/ 1 quoting word NARASHANSA, he said that its meaning is Respected Hazrat Muhammad Sahib, who will take avtar. The meaning of Narashansa is he who is adorable by all human beings.This meaning is told by an ancient Muni Yaska, in his holy Granth Nirukta 9/6, he says in Sanskrit, “ YEN NARAH PRASHANSYANTE SAH NARASHANSO MANTRAH”, ITS MEANING IS THAT by whom the men are praised that mantra is called Narashansa mantra. The devta of this Atharvaveda mantra NARASHANSA. Accordingly the meaning in the above mantra of word NARASHANSA is adorable God, who is always praised by human beings. This pious word NARASHANSA has been quoted in other Vedas also, for example Rigveda mantra 1/18/9 is
NARASHANSAM SUDHRISHTMAM APASHYAM SA PRATHASTAMAM.
DIVO NA SADMAMAKHSAM.
The meaning is, “ I (na) like the light from sun light emitting heavenly bodies, (sadmamkhsam) in all human beings and other living creatures reside, (Sa prathastamam) Who is omnipresent with all the biggest space and other maters, (sudrishtamam) Who holds the creration well, (narashansam)who is adorable/praised by all human beings, i.e., God., (apashyam) is realized by me. So is the meaning of above quoted mantra which had already been explained by me on this site.However, it is to be noted that God is always realized by controlling all senses, perceptions and mind by virtue of daily eternal worship and hard practice of ashtang yoga.
Literal meaning of pundit is “ a learned person i.e., learned of Vedas. Yajurveda mantra 31/11 states “ BRAHMANNAHA (who knows Vedas and Almighty, formless God) MUKHAM ASEET i.e., Brahmin is the most superior, most honourable in the world. So a pundit is synonymous to Brahmin
Such dignitary is also called “NARASHANSHAHA”, in Vedas Narashansha means “he who is adorable amongst human beings.” But the greatest quality of pundit/Brahmin is that he is a learned of Vedas and yoga philosophy which is integral part of Vedas. Learned of Vedas means, the all the three education, i.e., knowledge, deeds and worship, have been learnt and are in action of the Brahmin because mere study does not serve the purpose. So Brahmin is a pundit, Yogi, saint, Narashansha, priest, rishi, muni, tapsvi etc. He has done hard study of Vedas and shastras, Upanishads etc., has practised yoga philosophy and has control on five senses, five perceptions and mind. Yajurveda mantra 33/78 states that such pundit/ Brahmin desires that the public must be rich and happy. He preaches Vedas and makes the aspirants able to do havan to get peace. Yajurveda mantra 27/43 states that the said Brahmin/pundit protects the public to remain away from the sins and to achieve the target of human life i.e., to attain Arth, dharma, Kaam, Moksh, by preaching Vedas. Yajurveda mantra 27/39 states that such Brahmin pundit has wonderful qualities, deeds and wonderful nature. He is a real friend of public. He keeps away all the aspirants from bad deeds/sins and makes them able to do only pious deeds. He is most respectful.
So there are several qualities of Brahmin/ pundit elaborated in Vedas which cannot be mentioned here, being lengthy. Manusmriti shloka 1/88 also states that the duties of Brahmin/pundit is to do hard study of Vedas, to perform Yajyen and enable the public to do Yajyen and thus to donate the education.
Such tapsvees i.e., Brahmin/pundit never become greedy and they can not be professional. Due to the effect of Vedas, study and ashtang yoga practice and control on senses, perceptions and mind. Real religion is to know the Vedas and thereafter to discharge duties towards family, society and nation faithfully.
Vedas have never been written by anybody. As per four Vedas like Yajurveda mantra 31/7, the knowledge of four Vedas emanated direct from God at the beginning of the earth and is originated in the heart of four Rishis. Vedas contain knowledge of science, about deeds and worship but Vedas never tell any story or any proper name etc. It is hundred percent clear that no Veda tells about the matter as mentioned by you about son of God etc. Vedas tell, he the son of god, who is a Philosopher of Vedas and Ashtang Yoga Philosophy and has controlled his five senses, five perceptions and mind , he always observes truth in mind, speaks truth and all his actions are based on truth. And therefore Vedas too never speak about Kalki avtar etc.