Dua: Is srishti ki shuruat kaise hui? Kya hm vaanaron jaise the? Aur phir ye 4 shuruati rishiyo ka kya itihas hai?
Swami Ramswarup: Hum vaanar nahi they, na ho sakte. Is Vishay mein neechey article paste hai:-

TRUE CONCEPT OF VANARS

Logically, scientifically and even based on the unchangeable laws of the nature, a vanar cannot be human-being and human-being cannot be a vanar. Secondly, Valmiki Ramayan is authentic holy book written by Rishi Valmikiji. Valmikiji and Sri Ram were contemporary to each other. Valmikiji has nowhere mentioned in his book that Hanumanji was a vanar (monkey). In Valmiki Ramayan it is mentioned that when Sri Ram and laxman were searching Sitaji in the jungle they met with Hanumanji for the first time. After having discussion with Hanumaji, Sri Ram told to Laxman that Oh! Laxman, see Hanumanji, he is a learned of four Vedas and Sanskrit grammer. I mean to say that vanar cannot be a learned of four Vedas, Sanskrit grammer, he can’t have talk with Sri Ram, Laxman and can never go to Lanka to search mata Sita.

You see, Sugreev, Bali, Hanumanji, Angad etc., are being called vanars(monkeys) but their wives have never been called “she-monkeys” nor their faces have been projected to be like monkeys/she-monkeys. So, there was a tribe called vanar but in the said tribe, men-women were there and not monkeys.

Monkeys or parrots etc., when will be taught then they may act accordingly but they cannot act as intelligently as man.

Secondly, God has stated that He (God) first gives the knowledge of the four Vedas to four Rishis, who are men. Then the rishis give to the other human-beings. Secondly, God states in the Vedas that worship/study of Vedas etc., are the deeds entrusted to human-beings only and not to others. So, the fundamental law of Almighty God cannot be challenged.

The proof of word “vanar” that it relates to the human-beings is stated above by the discussion between Hanumanji and Sri Ramji where Sri Ram addresses Hanumanji as vanar and side by side immediately states that vanar is learned of four Vedas. There are several other statements in Valmiki Ramayan which prove the fact that Hanumanji was not monkey but he belonged to vanar tribe.
For example- When Hanumanji met Sri Ram, then he gave his full introduction that he is the special warrior of king Sugreev. Sri Ram told Laxmanji that Hanumanji is sweet spoken, neither his sound pitch is high nor low. When a monkey meets a man, he cannot be sweet spoken or speak slowly. Instead, the monkey will start screeching. You see, Valmikiji was a great philosopher of Vedas and yoga at that time. He was Rishi-Muni. Rishi-Muni can never tell lies. Secondly, Rishi- Munis cannot tell or write in such a manner which may become difficult to understand. Whatever, they see or experience, they write exactly the same. Then how Valmikiji could write Hanumanji as monkey. It is not a matter of Sanskrit word “Vanar” alone but it is a matter of creation which is created by Almighty God.

When we study the matter of creation in the Vedas, we find that human beings are meant to worship and not the other living beings. So, Hanumanji, studied Vedas being a human-being and not monkey. You see, if nowadays also, we try to give the knowledge of the Vedas to some man or woman, it will be found that hardly a right person will be able to gain its knowledge, then what to talk about an animal which is not earmarked by Almighty God even to listen the Vedas. Can any animal or monkey define the meaning of formless God who is omnipresent and can the monkey meditate and realise God? I mean to say, it is quite impossible for a monkey to follow the said path under the rules and regulations of even Almighty God. Suppose, there is an electric switch. You train a boy of 6-8 years of age to switch it on. Simultaneously, a baby of monkey is also trained to do so. No doubt, both will switch it on. Now, you educate giving several examples to both about electric current in the wire that if anyone will touch the naked electric wire, then a person shall die. If the switch is now broken and the naked wire in which electric current is flowing is seen there, now if you order both of them to switch it on, you will observe that boy shall not touch the switch considering how fatal the naked wire is but the monkey will immediately obey and touch the switch. Naturally, the monkey will also touch the naked wire and die because the monkey was also trained to tell that the current is flowing in the naked wire but mere training by words, monkey could not be made to understand. Monkey can never understand that there exists electric current since he is animal who cannot be as intelligent as man.

Can a monkey who is trained in some activities open an institute to train the other monkeys like a man? Certainly not.

“CREATION”

The creation is eternal and automatic. There is no date of creation of the following:
(A) Almighty God who is alive, immortal, formless, creates, nurses and destroys the universe. He never indulges in any maya, mahamaya, illusion and deeds (good or bad. Yajurveda Mantra 40/8 and Yog shastra Sutra 1/26 also refer)

(B) Soul: Soul is alive, the purest, away from sins etc. but illusion covers the soul due to which soul forgets his original form and hence remains in sorrows, problems etc.

C) Prakriti: Non-alive and has three qualities. i.e., Raj, tam, Satva. At a proper time, the power of God acts in prakriti and the universe is created. So the creation is eternal and automatic.

Raj, Tam and Satva are the three qualities of prakriti. When the said gunnas remain idle dormant i.e., do not work, then combination of these three gunnas(qualities) in dormant stage is called prakriti and this time is called “final destruction” of the universe. When an appropriate time comes, the creation is to be started again. Then the power of God works in the above three gunnas i.e., in the prakriti and immediately the creation starts. Rajo gunn is a sign of sensuousness etc., Tamo gunn signifies laziness and sato gunn signifies ego, pride. Our human body is also made of the said three gunnas.

Vedas tell that there are three eternal/immortal matters- first: Almighty God, second: souls, third: prakriti. Almighty God creates, nurses and destroys the universe and again creates it. The said process of creation is eternal/immortal/everlasting. Almighty God creates the universe from prakriti. When the raj, tam and satva gunnas of prakriti remain idle (dormant condition/inactive) then creation does not take place. At an appropriate time, a power of Almighty God acts in prakriti (i.e., in Raj, tam and satva gunnas). Immediately the process of creation starts and the first matter of prakriti is made which is called –Mahat i.e., mind; from Mahat- ahankar is made, from ahankar panch (5) tan matrayein, from panch (5) tanmatrayein, panch (5) mahabhoot are created. From panch mahabhoot, the entire matter of universe i.e., Sun, Moon air, water, our bodies, bodies of other living beings etc., are created. The whole creation is thus created from prakriti and remains still (in active) like a statue. This creation is called non-sexual creation. In the said creation, the young human bodies are created which are neither old nor babies. Then by the power of God, in the said bodies, breathing system (prann vaayu) starts operating. At last, God enters into the universe and immediately all the humans and other living beings become alive and start functioning. Similarly, the non-alive matters like Sun, moon, earth, air, water etc., start their respective functions.

Creation, Science, worldly matters etc., is not possible until the same is created by someone. Secondly, knowledge is attained when knowledge is imparted by someone.

Rigved mantra 10/129/ 1-6 throw light about creation that at that time, there was nothing and no living beings did exist. So there was no learned acharya who could give the knowledge to the newly created living beings like parents who educate the children to make them able to speak language and to know about the matters like crow, animals, chapati, ghee, sun, moon i.e., all matters of the world. See, if a newly born baby is managed to live in dense jungle and nursed well but he is not given education about the worldly matters etc. i.e., mathematics, science, animals, sun, moon etc., then even at the young age of 20-25, 30 years, he will not be able to speak any language and when he will be brought out of the cave of dense jungle and will be asked about the sun, moon, animals, birds before him, then he will not be able to reply because he was not given the said knowledge.

When we see towards sun, moon, air, space, human body etc. It is clearly understood that the said creation has not been made by any human being but Almighty God, from whom the knowledge of four Vedas emanates. In Vedas, the knowledge right from straw to Brahma has been mentioned. So in the beginning of non-sexual earth, the Vedas originated in the heart of four rishis: Agni, Vaayu, Aditya and Angira, and from the rishis the knowledge of science, deeds and worship along with every matter is being given to the public by which the public became educated scientist and wrote books, etc.

In Vedas as well as in fourth chapter of Yog Shastras of Rishi Patanjali, it is mentioned that those who do not believe in God are provided more and more facilities by nature and such people get spoiled etc.

On the contrary those who worship God, they naturally try to kill their desires and accordingly under the law, nature, help them to follow the true path to realize the God.

Did we evolve from monkeys?

No matter of monkey please, otherwise the process could have been continued ever today (there would be no monkeys). Species theory is not according to Vedas please.

Logically, scientifically and even based on the unchangeable laws of the nature, a vanar cannot be human-being and human-being cannot be a vanar.

Monkeys or parrots etc., when will be taught then they may act accordingly but they cannot act as intelligently as man.

Secondly, God has stated that He (God) first gives the knowledge of the four Vedas to four Rishis, who are men. Then the rishis give to the other human-beings. Secondly, God states in the Vedas that worship/study of Vedas etc., are the deeds entrusted to human-beings only and not to others. So, the fundamental law of Almighty God cannot be challenged.

You see, if nowadays also, we try to give the knowledge of the Vedas to some man or woman, it will be found that hardly a right person will be able to gain its knowledge, then what to talk about an animal which is not earmarked by Almighty God even to listen the Vedas. Can any animal or monkey define the meaning of formless God who is omnipresent and can the monkey meditate and realise God? I mean to say, it is quite impossible for a monkey to follow the said path under the rules and regulations of even Almighty God. Suppose, there is an electric switch. You train a boy of 6-8 years of age to switch it on. Simultaneously, a baby of monkey is also trained to do so. No doubt, both will switch it on. Now, you educate giving several examples to both about electric current in the wire that if anyone will touch the naked electric wire, then a person shall die. If the switch is now broken and the naked wire in which electric current is flowing is seen there, now if you order both of them to switch it on, you will observe that boy shall not touch the switch considering how fatal the naked wire is but the monkey will immediately obey and touch the switch. Naturally, the monkey will also touch the naked wire and die because the monkey was also trained to tell that the current is flowing in the naked wire but mere training by words, monkey could not be made to understand. Monkey can never understand that there exists electric current since he is animal who cannot be as intelligent as man.

Can a monkey who is trained in some activities open an institute to train the other monkeys like a man? Certainly not.