Sapana: Swamiji namste!! Agar Mahabharat vedkalin hai toh kya usme kahi yeh baat sach hai ki kunti ko paanch putro ki prapti ved mantro se hui thi? Is baat ki pichhe ka matitaarth kya hai?
kya bhagvad geeta sabhi vedo ka saar hai? Agar aisa hai to sarv ved padhane ke bajay insaan sirf geeta samze aur padhe to kya hoga? kya jo ved nahi padhate unhe ishwar prapti nahi ho sakti?
Swami Ram Swarup: Namasteji. Kunti ke teen putra – Yudhishthir, Bheem, Arjun aur Madri ke do putra Sehdev aur Nakul the jo niyog se prapt hue the. Kyunki Pandu ko ek Rishi ka shraap tha ki yadi weh apnee patni ko chhuega to mrityu ko prapt ho jayega. Isliye Pandu ne apnee patniyon ko niyog se putra parpt karne kee agya dee thee.
Bhagwad Geeta mein jo bhi kuchh likha hai, weh vedon ke gyata Vyas muniji ne aur jo bola hai weh vedon ke gyata Yogeshwar Sri Krishna Maharaj ne bola hai isliye jo Charon vedon ka gyata nahin hai, weh Geeta ke marmik arth nahi samajh payega. Koi kahe ki geeta vedon ka saar hai, isliye ved padne kee zaroorat nahi hai to yeh asatya bhashann hai. Jaise koi kahe ki kisi qualified doctor ke sath koi nursing assistant kaam karta- karta doctor ban jaye to yeh illegal aur jhoot baat hai. Jub koi ved jaanta hee nahi to Geeta mein vedon kee jo baat likhee hai, weh usko kaise jaan sakta hai? Doosra Atharvaved mantra 12/5/40 yeh keh raha hai ki jo vedon se kutran lega matlab poora ved mantra to nahi lega, uska kuchh bhag hee lega to usey Ishwar dand dega. Aap khud hee sochein ki kisi vidyarthi ko kisi pustak se, imagine karo English kee book se, kisi chapter ka saar (saransh) likhne ko kaha jaaye aur us student ko weh chapter bilkul na padaya jaye to weh uska saar kaise likh dega? Jis vidyarthi ne book padee hai, weh hee us chapter ka saar likh payega lekin yahaan koi kahe ki padne wala yadi kewal saar padega aur chapter usne padaa hee nahi to usey us chapter ka saar bilkul samajh nahi ayega. Yahi bat bhagwad Geeta par laagu hotee hai. Jisne ved nahi padey weh Bhagwad Geeta ko nahi samajh payega. Main aapko advise karoonga ki aap meri pustak Bhagwad Geeta part I,II, III and IV mein se kam se kam part I hee padein, isey padkar aapko Vedic rahasya aur geeta ka relation samajh aa jayega. Doosree baat yeh hai ki swayam Ishwar ne vedon mein kaha hai ki jo mere ved nahi jaanta usey Main (God) prapt nahi hota. Han! Apne apne matanusaar sab chalein. Unhein unhee mein satisfaction hai to weh us par chalte rahein. Parantu ved mat-matantron mein nahi aata, ved sect/mazhab nahi hai. Ved Ishwareeya vanni hai, iske vishya mein apna ek article paste kar raha hoon.
God has made universe and blessed us with human body to do pious deeds to attain salvation only. He has not made any heaven or hell. All have to face the result of their deeds, good or bad here only, even by taking rebirth. (Rigved mantras 10/135/1,2 refer)
God has not only made universe but has also given knowledge of four Vedas where answers to your and everyone’s questions have been given. There are four Vedas:
1. Rig Veda – gives knowledge of science, matter of the universe like sun, moon, air, body etc., etc.
2. Yajurved – gives knowledge of all the deeds and duties to be performed by men, women, students, leaders, king, agriculturist etc., etc., etc.
3. Samved – gives knowledge how to worship God who gives peace and long happy life etc. In this way, details of Yoga philosophy, qualities, supreme deeds and nature of the God are also given.
4. Atharvaved – gives details of God, medical science and details of medicine etc.
Actually in four Vedas there is unlimited knowledge. Yajurved mantra 40/8 says that God is everywhere, is Almighty, formless, devoid of nervous system, purest, away from sins and does not have to face any result of any karmas (deeds), knows every soul, knows what is in everyone’s mind, no body has made God, but God creates universe, has given the eternal knowledge of four Vedas and always gives the said knowledge at the beginning of every universe to know the science and deeds to all concern. Similarly four Vedas say about God that God is an omnipresent, omniscient, formless, beyond imagination and beyond calculation. Actually God has unlimited qualities. There is only one God who creates, nurses, destroys the universe and recreates. Atharvaved mantra 4/1/1 also says that God gives the knowledge of Vedas at the beginning of the earth to four Rishis of non-sexual creation. And thereafter only public listens Vedas through Rishis- Munis as yet and become learned. Rig-Veda gives knowledge of Almighty, Yajurved gives knowledge of karmas (deeds), Samved tells about worship-Yoga philosophy and Atharvaved about medicines and God. Actually all Vedas commonly says about God also, so this is about Vedas in short. But the knowledge of Vedas is endless.
It is a fundamental law that knowledge is always given by somebody. Otherwise knowledge can’t be gained at any cost. If a new born baby is nursed well in a dense jungle and is not educated then he will not be able to gain any knowledge even if he becomes young or old. So we have to think about the origin of the knowledge prevalent in the world today. In this connection the Vedas themselves say that God gives this knowledge to four Rishis. As said by Rishi Patanjali in Yog shastra sutra 1/26, God is the first Guru of the four Rishis. Yajurved mantra 31/7 also refers. This is all in short about Vedas.
The Vedas are not a book, rather it is a knowledge originated in the heart of Rishis. At the time of beginning of the earth those Rishis preached Vedas by mouth and all others remembered the same orally. At that time there was no pen, pencil, paper, etc. This process of studying Vedas orally remained till Mahabharata time. Muni Vyas too remembered Vedas traditionally by heart. Then Muni Vyas for the first time wrote the Vedas on Bhoj patra about 5300 years ago. In 16th century when printing press came into existence then the Vedas were printed. Still Vedas are not those which have been printed but those which are preached by mouth by an Acharya/yogi and the printed Vedas are called Sanhita.
Now if somebody worships a statue etc., then it is their own creation please but Vedas deny. According to Vedas the best worship of the God is Yajyen for which all Vedas are self-proof. Yajurved mantra 31/16 says that the learned persons worship God by Yajyen.
So many people have asked me that most of the scholars/preachers of different religion state that their religion incorporates all matters of the world including science. What about Vedas? I wrote so many Ved Mantras describing science matters therein. For example, Yajurved Mantra 3/6 states
“Ayam Gauhu Swaha Pitram Puraha Prayan Mataram Prishnihi
This earth revolves around the Sun in the space and it also rotates on its own axis. Vedas are eternal like God because Vedas emanate from God. Now, according to Vedas, this present creation is about 1 Arab, 96 crores, 8 lakh 53,111 years old. So are theVedas but as said in Rigved Mantra 10/191/3 the present creation is same as was the previous one and this process of creation is eternal. So are the Vedas which emanate from eternal God. This all concludes that Vedas are the oldest in this creation also and no other book of science, maths or pertaining to spiritualism is written before Vedas.
Like the above example of rotation and revolution of earth, the significance of whole present science is mentioned in Vedas. We can see that whatever is happening in the universe, is all according to the Vedas. For example, occurrence of six seasons, actions of Sun, moon, process of death, birth, worship, yoga philosophy, atomic energy, agriculture, animal husbandry, knowledge of politics, administration, architecture, solar energy, knowledge of home appliances like mixer, grinder, business rules, about men, women, children, marriage, Brahmacharya, education, clothes etc., etc., i.e., knowledge right from a straw to Brahma is all in Vedas. God is Almighty and has unlimited powers. So through His power He is able to originate the knowledge of Vedas in the heart of four Rishis without pencil, paper, help of mouth or any other worldly assistance.
We, i.e., the whole world depends on Almighty God but God is forever independent. That is why, He is God. We are the souls who reside in human bodies. We need assistance of senses, perceptions, mind and body to do deeds but not God.
Nowadays, so many saints are writing books. What is the background to write their books? Background is clear that they have first studied or listened the preach from their Gurus, keeping aside the matter of truth or falsehood. And after studying or listening the same, they became able to write the books. So this is also fundamental law, based on which, the ancient Rishis first listened Vedas and when they became learned then only they wrote the Vedic books like Valmiki Ramayana, six shastras, Mahabharat (Bhagwad Geeta), Upanishads, etc., etc. So, first the knowledge of Vedas is initiated in the universe and afterwards other books come into existence.
Somebody may say that human beings have knowledge by their nature to create anything like books etc., but we see that the newly born baby who is nursed in a jungle, in the absence of knowledge of a learned person, he becomes incapable to do anything. Thus, he can’t be M.A, M.Sc, doctor etc. So there are two types of the words and meanings. First, eternal which are from Almighty God and second, natural made by human beings. Eternal word meanings are always from Vedas i.e., from God. After listening/studying Vedas, human beings become learned and then too based on their own natural knowledge, they make their own words and meanings, literature etc. But it is very much clear that in the absence of knowledge of Vedas, no one can become learned. Nowadays, also people live in dense jungle and do not lead a civilized life because they are not learned as cited above. Vedas are not sects because they emanate direct from God and God is one for all human beings. God creates sun, moon, air, water, food etc., which are meant for the best use of all human beings for their long, happy life, so are the Vedas.
So all human beings must accept Vedas as an eternal knowledge from God, for the benefit of whole creation.
My blessings to you, my daughter.
Dave: Swamiji pranam, I would like a full English translation of Rigved mandal 10, sukta 129 please. Thanks.
Swami Ram Swarup: My blessings to you. It is not possible to explain 10th mandal, sukta 129 because I’m too busy to say. Yet, you may send your postal address and if I’ll get time slowly-slowly I’ll try to translate the said sukta.
L: Dear sir, I am facing economic problems. I am going to lay 11 inches stone balaji statue for worshiping or pooja, stone balaji laying in home , is it good or , is there any bad effect in my home? Please inform me sir.
Swami Ram Swarup: My blessings to you. Whatever you’ve told in your question i.e., about laying 11 inches stone Balalji statue at home, that is not mentioned in Vedas. So, I cannot comment on it. Based on the Vedic path, I can only say that we all human beings must do worship of only almighty God Who is formless, omnipresent, omniscient, unchangeable, unchallengeable and immortal.
However, you may ask any local pandit about your query.