Karan: Dear Swami Ji, I read these words, and it said that these words are from holy Veda and Purana Here are the words:
1. In the Hindu epic the RIG VEDA (i) In Mandala 7, Ush 5, Mantra 5 and Chapter 6
“Bee chakram prithoi aishai ta khestraaeh Vishnu mansai das sayaan throvaah so asaya keeryo janaas oeroo khashatra so janama chakaar (8)”
(ii) In the same Vedas, in another part even in the name NANAK and the clan he belongs to is recorded thus – “Sri Nanak gureng vareng saklaath heythoo. Heitha samasth jagathaa va veithee kaetheng”
(iii) At another position in the same Vedas is entered under Mandala 1 Soothak 5 and in the 7th Mantra thus – “Eeth eethei Vishnu reinn chakramei threihaa nathathei patham”
2. The YUJAR VEDA “Vishnu bee chakrageih treithaa neikthei patham samudhseiaa paaeh serei swahaa”
3. In the BHAVEKHATH PURANA
(i) “Theraa bhaareng thereshtwah keli krethem maha krethyaa. Aeveng vaee tharam parchaariang bhavekhthee thaa kalau. Thatha vei loka rakheiaartheng maleishana naas heithwei paschmeitlheng subh theisay vath wensei chei Nanaka naam nach rekhiang brahem geaanaik manas bhavekhet kaloe skunth thatar verth kaleaah har (35).”
(ii) “Guru thaa Brahma, Guru raa Vishnu, Guru raa dev maheshra saakhyaar Parbrehem Thasmei NANAK nameh”
4. In VISHNU PURANA “Sri Nanak santang saageaami
Sri asech, sri asech, sri asech, sri asech”
I just want to ask, is this rigth that these words are from Holy Veda? and are these Words tell the prophecy of Guru Nanak, the founder of Sikh religion? Please help me to understand this, Thanks
Swami Ram Swarup: (1)Vedas are not epics, please and Vedas are universally applicable and not merely for Hindus because it is knowledge which emanates direct from God in the beginning of creation when present sects had not originated. the Rigveda mantra is quoted as –
mandal number, then sukta number then mantra number; so, Rigveda mantra 7/5/5 is
“Tvamagne Harito Vaavshana Giraha Sachante dhunyo ghritacheehee,
Patim Kriteenaam Rathyam Rayeennaam Vaishwanarmushsaam Ketumahnaam.”
But you’ve quoted something else which is not a Ved mantra.
(2) Another quotation given by you also does not relate to Vedas.
(3) Not in Vedas, please.
I mean to say that all the references quoted by you do not appear in Vedas, please. Vedas originated in the heart of four Rishis, at the beginning of universe, about one Arab ninety-seven crore years ago and respected Guru Nanak Sahibji came about five hundred years ago.
Dinesh Shevkani: How can I help poor people? I do not have money.
Swami Ram Swarup: Vedas tell that one should become rich person by doing hard working, honestly. So, please first earn the money. However, one should continue Vedic worship of God, daily , without fail and simultaneously should do hard job to earn money and should also discharge his moral duties daily otherwise, nobody can become real gentleman and rich person as well.