Bipin Badheka: Pranam, Guruji. Charan Sparsh. Kindly request to please guide us on below.
(1) Below is my understanding after reading your books in this particular matter. So whether it is correct please guide. Our soul has two sharirs-sthul & shukshma.
-During existence of physical body, sukshma sharir does not work.
-If salvation is attained by yogi being alive then after his death he can use sukshma sharir to enjoy merriment.
-If death is occurred without salvation then sukshma sharir goes with soul and remains with it during next birth and so on etc.
(2) When yogi attains salvation being alive then-
-whether he can attain death/leave his physical body on a particular day as per his desire like Gurupurnima or any other holy day (though all days created by God are holy).
-Can he live up to 400 years after attaining salvation as per own desire?
-Are there such Rishi in dense jungle/caves of Himalaya/Rishikesh etc. who are having age of more than 100/200/300 years or more in present time i.e. today?
Swami Ram Swarup: My blessings to you, my son.
Yes, soul has sthool, suksham and karann sharer. There are two kinds of suksham sharer-
b. Natural sharer is availed by soul in salvation only.
Sthool sharer is made of food- (Anna) which is being seen by eyes. Suksham sharer cannot be seen and remains always with soul, even when soul leaves the body at death. The suksham sharir remains with soul. Death means when soul goes out of the body of either ordinary human-beings or yogi. Then body and its parts like eyes, heart etc., stop working which is called death but soul is immortal. I paste extract of my article in this regard-
Soul is alive matter and resides in living non-alive body. Body is destroyed but soul is immortal. So we all are soul not body. Soul takes next body after death of body based on deeds. In this connection, I also paste my article below.
Attachment (about Soul & Body)
Relationship is always made at least within two matters which are always separate from each other. One says that this is his house. So house is separate and person is separate. Another says that this is my house, my son, my wife etc. So person is separate, his house, son and wife are also separate from each other. That is why the relation was made.
Similarly when someone says that this is his head and leg, ear and eyes etc., so here also it is clear that the person who is making relation with head, eyes etc., is separate and the said organs and the whole body are separate. Otherwise relation cannot be made. No one on the earth says that he is eye, he is head, he is leg, he is body etc., but always says that all the organs of body belong to him. So naturally question arises that who, “HE” is to say that this is his head.
Here “HE” means “SOUL” who resides in the body. Rigveda mantra 1/164/20 says that this body is like a tree. Tree is destroyed one day. So body made by prakriti’s five matters (earth, air, water, space, fire) is destructible, prakriti being non-alive. In said tree, God and soul also reside and both are alive matters.
God is omnipresent but soul is not omnipresent and resides at only one place at one time. Suppose we are sitting in a dark room in the night then we are unable to do any task like studying but in the light of electric bulb we become able to do job. Similarly human body only works when the soul resides in it. That is soul works like an electric bulb otherwise we daily see so many deaths of youngsters also whose healthy body is there but does not work, eye can not see, ear can not listen etc., so which matter (tatv) had left the body. Yes, it is only soul.
QUALITIES OF SOULS (JEEVATAMA)
Soul is alive. Soul has to face the result of his deeds. Soul takes body of human beings, animals, birds, trees etc., according to deeds of past lives. Soul feels sorrow, happiness etc., through body. When soul leaves body, it feels nothing but carries all karma to be faced in next birth through his chitta’s (chitta) vritti (vritti).
Souls are innumerable but are constant in number having similar qualities like being pure, immortal, alive etc. Soul is infinitesimally small, is invisible. The bodies of all living beings contain souls.
Not God but soul has desire, hatred/malice, merriment, sufferings, attachment etc. While attracting itself towards materialistic articles made of prakriti soul forgets his original form. As a result, soul recognizes himself as body. This is the stage of soul being unwise.
“NA TAM VIDATH YA IMA JAJAANANYUDYUSHMAKAMANTARAM BABHOOVA,
NEEHAREINN PRAVRITA JALAPYA CHASUTRIP UKTHASHASCHARANTI.”
(RIGVEDA MANTRA 10/82/7)
(TAM) that God (NA) not ( VIDATH) known (YAH) who (EMA) all worlds (JAJANN) creates and (YAT) from you (ANYAT) separate from other souls(YUSHMAKAM) from you (ANTARAM) with in all (BABHOOVA) is (NIHAREINN) fog like smoke (YAT) that God (PRAVARITAHA) covered (JALAPYAHA) baseless discussion (ASUTRIPAHA) satisfied only in Prann [breathing system] (UKTHASHASAHA) only paying lip service (CHARANTI) deals or behaves.
Meaning: Like an invisible matter which is covered with fog similarly dealing in only lip service and indulging in baseless discussion and are satisfied in their breathing system, Oh! Man-woman, you do not know the God who creates the five matters/universe and the God who is separate from other souls and who is within all.
Atma means jeevatma i.e., soul. Autobiography of soul is not written, please. Yog shastra sutra 1/2 states- “Yogas Chitta Vritti Nirodhaha” i.e., when an aspirant does hard practice of ashtang yoga philosophy mentioned in vedas under the guidance of learned acharya of ashtang yoga and vedas philosophy then one day he becomes capable of destroying his previous as well as present life’s deeds. Then Yog shastra sutra 1/3 states “Tada Drashtu Swarupevasthanum” i.e., then soul gets situated in his form i.e., soul knows himself.
In the absence of the said worship, soul does not recognize himself. Soul being indulged in illusion, forgets his form. His form is that soul is pure i.e., never indulges in illusion. Actually, through five senses, mind and intellect, soul is attracted towards materialistic articles of world and hence, illusion effects him. So, soul is originally pure, immortal, alive, learned, eternal matter who neither takes birth nor meets with death. So, the said qualities can be stated as biography of soul. So, soul cannot be hurt or killed. Therefore, the question of self-defense does not arise. Defense is needed for human-body only wherein soul resides. Soul is pure (shudh) in his original form and can never be made or purified so its shuddhi is not required. Atma sakshi means self-realization. Soul has eternal, original, divine qualities amongst which some have been described above. So, sanskar of soul is not required. Sanskars get imprinted on chitta only.
Yes, yogi can leave his body at his own accord. But you see, days and time have been created by God, so every day and time is pious, only deeds of a person either are pious or sinful. Yes, if a yogi adopts complete Brahamcharya and has control over his food etc. Then sure, he can attain age of his body upto four hundred years. In this connection, preach of eternal knowledge of Vedas is required to be followed strictly. Nobody knows about such Rishis having age of more than hundred to two hundred years.
Yet, the possibility stands. Your question is appreciated but I would advise you here also that repeating of the pious deeds or stage of yogi would not serve the purpose of attaining salvation. However, such divine qualities of a Yogi should sure be known to do hard worship like hard practice of ashtang yoga etc., to become like yogi. It is for this purpose that human body has been provided to us by God.
A S: I have been told that me and my match have a nadi dosh. What to do?
Swami Ram Swarup: Namaste, my daughter.Nadi dosh, kaal sarp dosh, pitra dosh or any dosh or Nav grahan poojan, teva system etc., are not mentioned in Vedas. So, learned never accept it and need not to worry for this dosh. Marriages are solemnized based on good qualities of both sides. So, please explain the matter to the parents of both sides and make them agree. You may also take help of learned Purohit of Arya Samaj, locally. The boy should be earning and capable of fulfilling family requirements. My blessings are with you.