Puneet: Swami ji parnam… kuch sawal hai : 1.yeh jitne bhi deities hai..chaihe woh shivji hon..ganesha hon…inder hon…yah shani dev….jinke sabse jada puja hoti hoi…yeh sab existennce mein kab aaye kyonki ved mein , gita mein ramayan mein ya jitne bhi books aapne likhe hai unmein inka koi vivran nahi hai…aur jis bhi chiz ka koi aagam pramaan nahi hai jaisa aap kehte hai phir log inko itna kyun poojte hain.
2.Yeh jo theerth hai yeh kisne banaye aur kis liye..jaiseki mansarover yatra..char dham yatra..12 jyotirling kyunki inka bhi koi vivran kahin nahi aata.
3.Yeh jo 9 deviyan inki kya visheshta hai…ma vaishno devi ho, maa chintpurni,kangra devi,kali maa, jwalaji ho jahan par har samay jyoti prajvalit rehti- wahan par aise kya shakti hai.
Swami Ram Swarup: My blessings to you. Aap bilkul theek kehtey hain ki aajkal ke devi-devta ka vedon mein varnnan nahin hai. Hamein anaadi kaal se chalee aa rahi is baat ko dhyan mein rakhna hoga ki satya ko jaanane ke liye tark aur vitark kee zaroorat hotee hai aur apne ya kisi ke bhi paksh ko vedon se tally karna padta hai kyunki ved swatah pramaan hain, jo vedon se tally hota hai weh satya aur jo tally nahin weh jhooth maana jaata hai. Isliye jo vedon mein nahin hai, ussey vidwan asatya aur manghadant maantey hain. Doosree baat yeh hai, jissey Geeta shlok 2/16 mein bhi kaha ki satya weh hai jo anadi kaal se chalaa aa raha hai aur agey bhi hamesha rahega. Satya weh nahin hai, jo kabhi ho aur kabhi na ho. Kabhi paida ho gaya ho aur kabhi khatm ho gaya ho, to is satya kee category me to sirf nirakar, sarvavyapak Parmeshwar jisne yeh duniya banayee, weh aata hai, doosra jeevatmayein hain, weh satya hain, teesra Prakriti hai, weh satya hai, chautha Ishwar se nikley Ved hain, weh satya hain. To hum satya ko pakdein, jhooth ko kyun pakadtey hain.
2.) Present ke tirath bhi Insaan ne hee banayein hain.
I also paste my article in this regard-
Ved mein Tirath ka arth weh sthan hai jahan ved mantron ke gyata Tapasvi niwas karte hain aur jahan rozana ved mantron se yajyen hota hai aur ved mantron ka arth aur bhaav samjhaya jaata hai . Aise pavitra sthan par pahunch kar hee jeev sansar roopi bhav sagar se tar jaata hai. Tirath ka doosra arth naav ya paani ka jahaz hai jisme baithkar ke pranni nadi ke ek kinare se doosre kinare tak pahunchta hai.
Tirath ka teesra arth hai ved-vidya dwara prapt shudh buddhi jo sadaa shubh karma karake jeev ko taar deiti hai. Yeh sansar ka satya vichar hai ki srishti ke arambh mein Ishwar se char vedon ka gyan utpann hota hai.
Punaha ved ka gyan prapt karke hee rishi-munion nein Mahabharat, Upnishad, six shastra, Valmiki Ramayan aadi ki rachna kee. Jaise aaj bhi koi pustakein padne ke baad hee apnee nai pustak kee rachna karta hai isee prakar Rishiyon ne pehle Vedon ka adhyayan kiya, baad mein Mahabbhart aaadi granth likhe aur unmein Vedon ka hee gyan diya. Ab kuch varshon se santon ka samay chal rahaa hai jinhone vedon se utpann shastra, Upnishad aadi ka adhayayan kiya aur pustakein likheen. Jo ekagra vritti se ved sunkar uspar manan karta hai weh to sansar ke sab dharma granthon ka jaankar ho jaata hai. Aisa vidwan phir chahe jo bhi granth pade to ussey un granthon mein ved ka gyan hee nazar aiyega. Aur yeh baat bhi hai ki jis granth mein ved ke khilaf koi baat likhee hai usey vidwan apramannik maankar tyag deitey hain.
Bhagwan Ram, Bhagwan Krishna jaise vibhutiyon ke samay aaj ke mazhab utpann hee nahin hue they. Yeh majhab to 2,000- 2,500 saal ke andar hee utpann hue hain.
Doosra , aaj ke sant-mahatma bhi kuch sau varshon se hee aiye hain atah Sri Ram avam Sri Krishna jaise vibhutiyon ke samay kewal ghar-ghar vedon ka gyan hee prachalit tha. Us samay, acharya se vedvidya sunkar rozana Yajyen, naam-simran aur yogabhyas aadi karke Ishwar kee vedon mein kahee anadi kaal se chalee aayee bhakti kee jaati thee.
3). Devi devta ke bare mein upar kah diya hai use hee aap dekhin.
Ramakanth: Priya guruji, In 1 Arab, 96 crores, 8 lakh 53,111 years. 1 arab means how many years?
Swami Ram Swarup: I think, you may be knowing that one arab= 100 crores. I also paste my article as under-
REVERT BACK TO VEDAS
It is the essence of Vedic spiritualism that whenever an aspirant enters into it then learned acharya preaches him that Vedas are the divine voice of God, which by the power of God, are originated in the heart of four Rishis, at the beginning of each creation. Learneds who indulge in deep study of Vedas know that Vedas are alive knowledge which emanate directly from God and hence they have not been written by anyone on the earth, in the shape of a book. Since, the said knowledge is applicable to all humans right from the beginning of earth hence Vedas are not sects.
Infact, Kapil Muni, after traditionally studying Vedas and realising the truth after hard practice of Ashtang Yog, also states the said truth in his Sankhya shastra sutra 5/51 that Vedas are alive knowledge hence ved mantras wield the power and self-capability to make such faithful aspirants, who are involved in deep and sincere study of Vedas, to understand the meaning and idea of ved mantras. This is the reason that Kapil Muni states that Vedas are self-proof to justify the truth. To elaborate, knowledge given in ved mantra or any fact stated through ved mantras does not require to be validated/authenticated by other shastras or any other book [but like our Rishi-Munis, Rajrishis
and their public used to study Vedas traditionally with faith and sincere efforts, process being the Vedic order of Almighty God, for all human-beings, the said practice is not in vogue at present
times].God knows when inhabitants of India would be able to adopt the said moral duties, entrusted by God, of studying and following the Vedas, which destroys all the effects of sorrows and makes our future bright with long life and also spreads international brotherhood along with other unlimited benefits.
Secondly, universe has been created about one Arab, ninety six crore, eight lakhs, fifty three thousand and one hundred and thirteen years ago.
So, logically, Vedas have also been created at this time-period. Rishi-Munis acquired Vedas’ knowledge by listening to Vedas traditionally from acharya and did agnihotra/yajyen, name jaap of God and Ashtang yog practice as preached in Vedas. In turn, they realised God and got the knowledge by doing pious deeds while leading the family life, making their future happy and bright, according to Vedas. Then they further educated people about the same because it has been
the benevolent nature of every learned person, who gains Vedic knowledge and experiences, divine pleasure, to share it with others. About five-six thousand years ago, Rishis wrote six shastras,
upnishads, Mahabharat (including Bhagwad Geeta) and Valmiki Ramayan much before all these books, based on the knowledge of Vedas. All these great writers – the Rishis, have eulogised Vedas in their literary works and based on their experience have admitted that Vedas are the divine voice of God.
That is why, Kapil Muni in his Sankhya shastra sutra 1/66 and Patanjali Rishi in his Yog shastra sutra 1/7 have shared their experience to educate us that the preach of any Rishi (Mantradrishta
Rishi) is also considered as a proof to reach at truth. And also the holy books written by the Rishis based on Vedic culture are also considered as proof called ‘Partah Pramann’, Vedas being Swatah
Pramann. Is it not our bad luck that the said secrets of Vedas are now mostly unknown to people and at this juncture, so called preach of any modern saint (sant who is against the Vedas) which does not tally with Vedic culture and which is definitely considered by learned of Vedas as totally false/unauthentic, is being accepted happily by the innocent public? If we consider impartially then we would find that the said matter is definitely harmful to the society, being against the Vedas because it does not come within the parameter of Vedic authenticity. Now, question is that who will bell the cat?
Duly indulged in illusion and mostly intention being after the materialistic articles etc., hardly anybody spares the time to study the literary works of Rishis like Upnishads, Shastras, Nighantu,
Ashtadhyayee, Shatpath Brahmin Granth and above quoted holy books which contain abundant proofs of ved mantras. Hence, when one will fail to study these great literary works of Rishis, under the guidance of learned acharya of Vedas. Then naturally anyone will cast doubt over the Vedas which implies non-awareness of Vedic knowledge. Nowadays, people study the so-called spiritual books written by ordinary people but not those written by Rishis. It shall not out of place to mention here that Atharvaveda mantra 7/105/1 preaches us to study Vedas or to study the spiritual books written by Rishi-Munis. The mantra strongly stresses not to study such books which are written by ordinary people. This secret has been made unknown to the public by several saints, that Vedas, Yajyen and yogabhyas are difficult and need not to be studied/performed. People do not know that God states to study Vedas and perform daily agnihotra/Yajyen, name jaap of God and practice of Ashtang yog under the expert guidance of learned acharya.
Due to ignorance of the same, people are not able to understand that they are doing sins by not obeying the God’s order of studying Vedas and doing yajyen etc. On the other hand, they are accepting the juicy lecture of saints, who are against the Vedas and who are mostly professional. Moreover, all the present sects along with their pious books have emerged about two thousand to two thousand and five hundred years ago. As compared to this, Vedas have been on this earth since
One Arab, ninety six crore, eight lakhs, fifty three thousand and one hundred and thirteen years ago. As mentioned above, Vedas are not a book. That is why, it has become difficult to repose faith in Vedas, in the absence of deep study under guidance of learned acharya of Vedas and Ashtang Yog.
Yet, it is a well-known fact spread by the tapasvis, Rishis-Munis by their preach and above quoted spiritual books that Vedas are eternal and immortal knowledge which emanate directly from God. This fact is even supported by renowned scientists like Maxmuller and many others who believe in authenticity of Vedas. It is further a well-known fact that Vedas have been preserved in world libraries with respect and honour, accepting Vedas as first and the most ancient literature. I mean to say that Vedas are the first knowledge which came on the earth. It was spread orally through the tradition of acharya and disciple, right from the beginning of the earth, as mentioned above.
So, Vedas were remembered by heart by everyone. About five thousand three hundred years ago, for the first time, Vyas Muniji, who himself remembered the Vedas by heart traditionally, wrote them on Bhojpatra for the benefit of mankind. He completed the said pious task on the day of poornnima, about five thousand three hundred years ago. Since, then the poornnima has been named and remembered as Vyas Poornnima. Further, when printing press came into existence in sixteenth century, the Vedas written on Bhoj patra by Vyas Muniji were printed in the form of book which is called “Samhita” and not ved. Samhita means collection of ved mantras which has been printed. Half of the intellectuals of the world believe Vedas to be the divine voice of God and yet half of the intellectuals believe that Vedas have been written by some great scientist who has no parallel to himself in the entire world. But learned of Vedas know that God is the scientist of all scientists and no one is born even equivalent to such God nor shall be born in future. Then what to talk about being above the God. It is also pertinent to mention here that eighteen chapters of Bheeshma parv of Mahabharat have been secluded, named and printed as Bhagwad Geeta. Infact, Yogeshwar Sri Krishna Maharaj has praised and eulogised Vedas in Bhagwad Geeta. The above stated facts are known only to learned of Vedas. The saints who are ignorant of the knowledge of Vedas are naturally ignorant of the Vedas’ knowledge contained in Bhagwad Geeta and are therefore compelled not to explain the shloka of Bhagwad Geeta, briefly and truly wherein the reference and truth of Ved mantras exists. Why? Because they have not studied Vedas.
However, most of the present literary works and most of the saints are reiterating the fact that Vedas are divine voice of God. In this connection, Almighty, omnipresent, formless God has already stated in Atharvaveda mantra 12/5/40 that those who do not study Vedas but take a piecemeal (portion) of Ved mantras, only which suits them, by means of studying other books etc., or listening from anywhere else [not based on traditional study of Vedas] will be punished by me (God). Isn’t it surprising that yet no one is taking the initiative to study Vedas. On the contrary, those deeds which are against the Vedas and promote blind faith are being done on large scale. To experience the truth, we will have to revert back to Vedas.