S Kale: How was God’s speech translated and put into 4 such books?
Swami Ram Swarup: At the beginning of the earth, the knowledge of four Vedas emanates direct from God and by the divine power (because God is empowered to do so) and capacity of God, the knowledge of Vedas is originated in the heart of four Rishis of non-sexual creation. Here, it is to be understood that God is formless but without speaking He is empowered to make and understand the matter to universe which He wants. That is why, Yajurveda mantra 31/1 states that God has unlimited mouths. Therefore, without speaking or writing, the knowledge of ved mantras is generated in the heart of four Rishis because Almighty God is empowered to do it.
The Vedas’ knowledge is generated in the heart of four Rishis about one arab, ninety six crore, eight lakh, fifty three thousand years ago. Uptil Mahabharat war, i.e., before 5,300 years ago, the said knowledge was obtained traditionally, heart to heart. That is by listening from an acharya and was memorized by heart as well. That is why, Vedas are called ‘Shruti’ also. ‘Shruti’ means the knowledge was listened from the mouth of the said four Rishis by disciples, then disciples became Rishis and they spread the knowledge of Vedas and so on. So, uptil Mahabhart war, the said knowledge of Vedas spread heart to heart, by listening method and no book was published. Now, a great Rishi named Vyas Muniji, who also listened to four Vedas from his acharya and remembered it by heart, decided for the first time to write the knowledge of Vedas on Bhoj patra. Finally, he wrote the four Vedas on Bhoj patra, in his hand-writing. In sixteen century, the printing press came into existence and four Vedas were printed and produced in the shape of four samhitas.
Rajesh: Swamiji namaste, my questions are:
1) Is really Vedic period came later on INDUS VALLY, RAVI PHASE and HARAPPAN culture? This is as per Government website. If it is wrong then why our big saint or gurus are not opposing it to save our culture from these foreigners and some Indian archaeologist and also from our Government? Who also says that Aryans came from foreign?
2) According to them, the oldest book is only Rigved not Yaju, Sam, Atharv becase these were written much later on. Rigved was written in Haryana.
3) Our shastra says that the age of earth is now 1,96 lakh something but scientist got the bone of dinosaur which was 2.5 crore something old by CARBON DATING TEST.
4) India was part of Africa according to the family and chromosome of the dinosaur as tested by scientist according to the bones of Indian dinosaur.
5) Yog and Swastic symbol were taken by Aryans from Harappa culture as one stone got from digging Harappa city.
Swamiji all these researches r creating doubt to me on our shastra and history contained in it. I’m very sad with these kind of fact which are not matching our shastra and Ved. Please kindly reply and take any necessary step to solve it if all these are wrong as possible as you can. And my last question is that 6) In shlok of manu smrith,shatpat brahman and other shastra there are only 3 Ved ie rik, yaju, sam not atharv. Was it really written later? Please reply according to my Question number.
DHANYAWAD.
Swami Ram Swarup: My blessings to you.
1. Vedic period is most ancient and comes into existence right from the beginning of every creation. Actually, it is an eternal philosophy. When this universe will meet with final destruction, then in the new creation automatically the Vedic period shall start again. In this connection, my article is pasted below-
At the beginning of the earth, the knowledge of four Vedas emanates direct from God and by the divine power (because God is empowered to do so) and capacity of God, the knowledge of Vedas is originated in the heart of four Rishis of non-sexual creation. Here, it is to be understood that God is formless but without speaking He is empowered to make and understand the matter to universe which He wants. That is why, Yajurveda mantra 31/1 states that God has unlimited mouths. Therefore, without speaking or writing, the knowledge of ved mantras is generated in the heart of four Rishis because Almighty God is empowered to do it.
The Vedas’ knowledge is generated in the heart of four Rishis about one arab, ninety six crore, eight lakh, fifty three thousand years ago. Uptil Mahabharat war, i.e., before 5,300 years ago, the said knowledge was obtained traditionally, heart to heart. That is by listening from an acharya and was memorized by heart as well. That is why, Vedas are called ‘Shruti’ also. ‘Shruti’ means the knowledge was listened from the mouth of the said four Rishis by disciples, then disciples became Rishis and they spread the knowledge of Vedas and so on. So, uptil Mahabhart war, the said knowledge of Vedas spread heart to heart, by listening method and no book was published. Now, a great Rishi named Vyas Muniji, who also listened to four Vedas from his acharya and remembered it by heart, decided for the first time to write the knowledge of Vedas on Bhoj patra. Finally, he wrote the four Vedas on Bhoj patra, in his hand-writing. In sixteen century, the printing press came into existence and four Vedas were printed and produced in the shape of four samhitas.
So, he who studies Vedas has control on senses, mind and intellect, does daily yajyen and practice of Ashtang Yoga Philosophy keeps himself away from sins, is called “Arya” otherwise “Unarya i.e., devil. So, Arya did not come from outside. They were living right from the beginning of the earth. And Vedic period starts at the time of beginning of each creation. Now, most of the saints lack the knowledge of Vedas and have made their own path of worship that is mostly against the Vedas. So, how can they oppose the illusion. Only, Arya samaj has been trying but their efforts are like cumin seeds in the mouth of camel because rest of the saints and public do not know about Vedas.
Instead, they promote the foreign spiritualism and culture. They visit abroad and thus collect huge amount from there i.e., Indian future has been made miserable. I am not against to promote foreign culture but not at the expense of our own Indian culture.
2. Aryans, as I have stated above, never came from outside. As regards, the oldest book, most of the people are in dark (ignorant). As stated above, the knowledge of Vedas originated in the heart of four Rishis, but the sequence was first Rigveda in the heart of Agni Rishi, second Yajurveda in Vayu Rishi, Third Samveda in Aditya Rishi and fourth Atharvaveda in Angira Rishi.
Manusmriti shloka 1/23 And Rigveda Mantra 10/181/1,2 states that there was an aspirant who obtained the knowledge of four Vedas from the above quoted four Rishis and is called “Brahma”. Vedas state that he who has knowledge of four Vedas is always called ‘Brahma’. That is, the same law is applicable in the present also. Now, you please think that Brahma got the knowledge from the above four Rishis, it means the Four Rishis were alive at the same time, then it is baseless to say that most ancient book is Rigveda, infact we should state that four Vedas belong to the same time period. For example- Twins take birth and their time of birth can differ for about few minutes but it cannot be told that the first born baby was more ancient than the second one. Vedas are not book, it is a formless knowledge like God. The handwritten books by Vyas muni were also written in same time period, because writer was one i.e., Vyas muniji. So, the four Vedas written by Vyas muni and the printed books of Vedas at present also, are not called Vedas but are called “Samhitas”. ‘Samhita’ means collection of ved mantras which have been printed in the shape of a book. Vedas are the preach which comes out from the mouth of learned acharya of four Vedas. The preach (voice) of the learned acharya is also formless and unseen.
3. Dinosaur, if it is true, are old only about two and a half crore years and the age of present creation is far more, as quoted above.
4. India was not part of Africa and its detail is available in Manusmriti, however, the monarch was one for the entire earth and he used to sit in India. For example- Dashrath, Sri ram were monarchs who ruled all over the world. Manu, Harishchandra, Yayati, Ashtak etc., were also monarchs.
5. No, please. Yoga’s philosophy is eternal and mentioned in four Vedas whereas Swastik symbol is not in Vedas and was not used by Aryans. Now, we Hindus use swastik symbol.
Shastras and Vedas do not tally with the present situation as you have told and the main reason is lack of eternal knowledge of Vedas which emanates direct from God and second reason is that mostly we have started to follow man made path.
6. All four Vedas were originated in the heart of four Rishis and were written on Bhoj patra by Vyas muniji, in the Mahabharat kaal, consecutively, as briefed above.
